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    Alright, so I have finally decided that I am going to give into my original thought of waiting until prices go down before I got an SSD and just order one.

    I am trying to decide which one I should get, though. OCZ seems to be leading in the performance side of things although from what I have read, they have received mixed reviews regarding reliability. Intel's G2 drives seem to have rock-solid reliability, although don't really have the same performance of the top-of-the-line OCZ drives.

    I have narrowed it down to the OCZ Vertex 2 240GB or the Intel X25-M 160GB. I really can not decide. Price aside, the OCZ Vertex 2 has better performance and is bigger in size while the Intel X25-M offers good performance and great reliability.

    Any one have any thoughts? Also, can anyone explain why the OCZ Vertex 2 200GB model is more expensive than the 240GB model?

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    Jake did a review on the OCZ vetex. That is the one I want...... I would not get a 200G or 240G unless you have the $. Get a smaller for OS and use a HDD for data...... If you spend that much, get 2 60G and run em in raid0.

    The read and write speeds are faster on Vertex 2 60-200G if I remember.


    http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=983



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    Yep if you are going for performance maybe get 2 of them in raid0.I for instance got the Intel's 80gb which is more than enough for the OS and when i decide its about time for an upgrade will get another one on raid0.My advice is dont spend a lot of money for capacity a 60 or 80gb should be fine after all you wont be using it as a storage drive.Then if and when you wanna improve your performance or your gb's not enough go with a second one that will almost double your performance,buying a 160 or 240gb wont.

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    I would also suggest smaller and use a second HD for data/programs/downloads. I just made this upgarde a week a go. I went with the Crucial 64 GB M225. Has TRIM support and many other top of the line features. It isn't (by numbers) as fast as the OCZ, but my systems boots up in 4-6 seconds and everything simply goes at MACH 5---wish I would have done this sooner. I was selecting between OCZ, Crucial, Patriot, A-Data, and Intel. They all looked awe-some.

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    If your not in a rush you might want to wait a little while before you decide, I have a bunch SSDs coming in for review. The Corsair F100, G.Skill Phoenix Pro, Crucial C300 , Patriot Inferno, and a new comer to Pure OC the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro RE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    If your not in a rush you might want to wait a little while before you decide, I have a bunch SSDs coming in for review. The Corsair F100, G.Skill Phoenix Pro, Crucial C300 , Patriot Inferno, and a new comer to Pure OC the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro RE.


    Drdeath<<<<< Interested!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
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    I will be damned interested in this particular review. The Computex photos claimed some damned high numbers.

    I just bought a pair of Crucial C300s. The 64GB that were on sale. The drives haven't arrived yet, since I missed the UPS guy today, but I can tell you Crucial does some damned fast shipping. I ordered them like 34 hours ago, at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    If your not in a rush you might want to wait a little while before you decide, I have a bunch SSDs coming in for review. The Corsair F100, G.Skill Phoenix Pro, Crucial C300 , Patriot Inferno, and a new comer to Pure OC the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro RE.
    I guess I'll wait then...

    I was looking at the bigger drives because I wanted to get all of my programs (except the big games) on the SSD. An 80GB - 20GB for OS would only leave 60GB, which is not enough. And even if it was, I would not want to fill it up completely; having space left over is always nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rain724 View Post
    I guess I'll wait then...

    I was looking at the bigger drives because I wanted to get all of my programs (except the big games) on the SSD. An 80GB - 20GB for OS would only leave 60GB, which is not enough. And even if it was, I would not want to fill it up completely; having space left over is always nice.

    Get a 100G Vertex 2. Run Hdd's for data.

    I wasn't trying to talk you out of it.......

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    Does anyone know how the performance degradation is of the Vertex 2 100gb? I don't want to spend $400 on a drive and then a few weeks later really regret it... Also, do I need to run the board in AHCI, or would RAID suffice performance wise? I have an array (for storage only, so its a mirror) that I would not mind breaking but would rather not if possible. I have read that to do firmware upgrades you need to be in AHCI mode, is this true, or can it be done in RAID as well?

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    It would need to be run in AHCI mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    It would need to be run in AHCI mode
    I can live with that, but darn, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Jake did a review on the OCZ vetex. That is the one I want...... I would not get a 200G or 240G unless you have the $. Get a smaller for OS and use a HDD for data...... If you spend that much, get 2 60G and run em in raid0.

    The read and write speeds are faster on Vertex 2 60-200G if I remember.
    Please note that you lose TRIM support (which is only available in Windows 7 in any case) if you run any SSDs in RAID. At that point, you will need to rely on the built-in "garbage collection" of the drives in order not to have a sustained decrease in performance. Some drives are good at this task and some are not. After reading over 50 reviews on SSDs, I have come to the conclusion that, on a consumer level, an SSD as an O/S + apps drive should be run as a single drive with enough capacity for the user's needs with addl. drive(s) for storage of data as well as less often used/less performance hungry programs.

    And, until TRIM support for SSD's in RAID is available, there is no point in RAIDing them. Yes, you get fantastic "out of the box" performance, but what's the point if that'll degrade weeks later? Not to mention that (for drives with sequential reads exceeding SATA 3 Gbps specs like the C300) if you need the speed of RAID on SSD, it's better to have a motherboard with built-in SATA 6Gbps (and not LGA1156 due to the limitations of that architecture) as well as SATA 6 drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eido.cohen View Post
    Please note that you lose TRIM support (which is only available in Windows 7 in any case) if you run any SSDs in RAID. At that point, you will need to rely on the built-in "garbage collection" of the drives in order not to have a sustained decrease in performance. Some drives are good at this task and some are not. After reading over 50 reviews on SSDs, I have come to the conclusion that, on a consumer level, an SSD as an O/S + apps drive should be run as a single drive with enough capacity for the user's needs with addl. drive(s) for storage of data as well as less often used/less performance hungry programs.

    And, until TRIM support for SSD's in RAID is available, there is no point in RAIDing them. Yes, you get fantastic "out of the box" performance, but what's the point if that'll degrade weeks later? Not to mention that (for drives with sequential reads exceeding SATA 3 Gbps specs like the C300) if you need the speed of RAID on SSD, it's better to have a motherboard with built-in SATA 6Gbps (and not LGA1156 due to the limitations of that architecture) as well as SATA 6 drives.

    Vertex2's have trim support. If the Raid controller supports Trim, then Trim will run on a Raid array.... The drivers have been out for some time.
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    Ok, here are a few facts gentlemen:

    1. Vertex 2 has TRIM support
    2. RAID does not have TRIM support
    3. SandForce drives have minimal performance degredation due to their improved design over Indilinx SSDs. Couple this with TRIM and SandForce-based SSDs (like the Vertex 2) pretty much keep their killer performance high.
    4. SSDs are sooooo bloody fast that you won't really notice a huge jump with going to RAID. A single SSD is so stinking fast compared to an HDD that you'll cry in joy. I personally think the downside of no TRIM isn't worth the performance boost on RAID.

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    It seems that a lot of people are contemplating the upgrade to SSD, and I think it'd be really cool if we had another sticky pertaining to them. We already have a performance degradation prevention sticky, perhaps it's time for a recommended SSD list and SSD facts sticky.

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