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    Default Guide to Installing SMP

    I’ve attempted this Guide for setting up SMP. I hope to add a few pics later when I re configure my Folder.
    Windows SMP 5.91 Client
    This works for SMP 6.23 Client too

    First download the client which can be found at

    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther

    and run setup.exe to install the client.

    You can use the default location for XP,
    In VISTA ............. DON’T CHOOSE THE DEFAULT.
    Instead choose C:\folding or some other place besides C:\Program Files.

    .Net Framework.

    Next do the software install, now to make it work you need to do the following:

    On XP make sure you have .net framework 2 installed, if not, run windows update and get it from optional updates.

    In Vista, .net framework 2 is native.

    Create a windows user, make them administrator, enter a password (no blanks).

    MUST be an administrator, and MUST have a password.



    Open your install location

    My XP example, I installed in C:\Program Files\Folding
    The 2 files you need to be concerned with are fah.exe and Install. bat

    REMINDER: in VISTA\WINDOWS SERVER 2003 do not install in C:\Program Files..

    MPI

    The next action is MPI. It is required every time you start the client.
    Run install.bat (The first time you run install.bat it may ask to you to allow traffic, if it does say “YES”

    First type the username you created above and hit ENTER. (It seems that nothing is happening….don’t worry)
    Next type the password you created for the username and hit ENTER. (Again nothing seems to happen)
    Now type the password again as confirmation and hit ENTER.
    You should get "mpi is working" as a message. If you don’t then you made a mistake.

    Now press ENTER to proceed and the window will close.

    Client
    The next action starts the client.

    Run fah.exe.

    The first time you run this it will give you options to configure

    Input your username
    Input team number…52950.
    The best thing you can do to begin with is answer NO to everything except:

    "Accept large work assignments” =YES..

    A successful launch will make it all the way to where the display shows
    "SSE Boost OK"
    "Completed 0%"

    Any errors before this and you have a problem!! ...Don’t panic post your problem below and we will try to help

    Remember to run this you will need a completely stable overclock
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    Default Using SMP with GPU2=More points

    So...after a few days giving this a go I'll give you a run down of some of the hiccups I've had.

    The first problem if you can call it that was that running together with GPU2 caused a hiccup in ppd output
    SMP was running @ 2140ppd but GPU2 was reduced to 4400ppd. Investigation showed that affinity for GPU2 was locked to core3 but Smp was spread across all 4 cores. Changing affinity of SMP to 0,1,2 only resulted in SMP dropping to 1944ppd but GPU2 went back to 59xxppd...=+1300ppd

    When the new project downloaded the affinity didn't stick so I attempted to overclock to match completion in 24 hours this needed me to attend each day to reset....Not ideal. The overclock was not stable enough and a few bsods later I reverted to a lower clock (3.5gig).

    Trawling posts at FaH I found Set Affinity 2 which locks, well resets actually, affinity. Problem solved.

    The projects I have to date have been worth 1940points and have been taking 24hours and 5 mins start to start.
    Today I got a different project worth 1760pts but this should finish in about 15 hours 45mins thats about 2500ppd...Gimme more!!

    THESE are XP experiences, Vista, apparently, does not suffer the same. I have yet to run SMP on its own so I can't really give figures for this....Maybe the next time the server goes down I can fill in the blanks.
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    ok, I have downloaded the version you said for SMP, now I am a complete and utter novice to what this and that is. what uses the CPU to fold, what uses the GPU to fold.

    I have SMP running on my old computer so I could get the hang of it before I use my uber computer.
    my questions are:
    1. whats SMP
    2. which client uses the GPU and CPU
    3. what Nvidia drivers should I use?
    4. what can I do to boost my performances
    5. how much heat would be generated when I hook up 5 computers in the same room to do this haahha :-P

    Also how long does would it take on a stock c2d E6600 2.4GHz to finish one Wu.
    i have a 7300gt in this old comp so I can't GPU fold with this. but for my other comp How can I GPU fold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaganader View Post
    ok, I have downloaded the version you said for SMP, now I am a complete and utter novice to what this and that is. what uses the CPU to fold, what uses the GPU to fold.

    I have SMP running on my old computer so I could get the hang of it before I use my uber computer.
    my questions are:
    1. whats SMP
    2. which client uses the GPU and CPU
    3. what Nvidia drivers should I use?
    4. what can I do to boost my performances
    5. how much heat would be generated when I hook up 5 computers in the same room to do this haahha :-P

    Also how long does would it take on a stock c2d E6600 2.4GHz to finish one Wu.
    i have a 7300gt in this old comp so I can't GPU fold with this. but for my other comp How can I GPU fold?
    You sure can ask them.......
    1. SMP is a Beta. It is like console, but is optimised for multicore (actually 4 core) folding, It is more computer intensive in that the equipment that it is designed for is more modern. It runs wholly on the CPU.

    1a. There is a version of SMP for later single core CPUs so two of these on a dual core is also a possibility.

    2. SMPs run on CPU only GPU2 runs mostly on GPU but does still use some CPU (1 core per GPU in XP or a few % of a core in Vista)

    3. By far the easiest driver to use is 177.35. My advice is start with this one. http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html

    4. Boost performance in SMP clients is good old overclocking your computer It has to be VERY stable though.
    Boost performance in GPU2 is a combination of mostly shaders and some GPU core overclocking the faster the shaders the better but the core must be able to keep up with feeding the shaders performance seems to "step" up and is not linear.

    5. You can feel the warmth!! at least when GPU folding. Power use can be 300w/machine for a single card so I guess 5 machines ......1000watt heater

    How long to complete? to be honest I don't know my guess would be 36 hours but I could be waaay off

    How to GPU fold? I guess it's time for me to revise the first page of GPU2... most of what you need is already there and within the body of the thread but some is now outdated/unnecessary
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    ok I thanks alot for all the information Grumpy. I have it running for 6 hours and I currently have 55,000 out of 250,000 done (22%) so it seems like ill finish around 88% in a day.

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    Which project? the 2 I've been getting are 2665 and 2653. until yesterday 2665 was taking 24hours and worth 1960 pts. now I'm getting 2653 worth 1760 points and completes in 15-16 hours (on my machine) Lots of people complained about 2665 being poor on points so maybe that one is the exception
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    yeah I'm doing 2665 atm but this is my old computer soo it seems like its going to take a little more then 1 day to finish it.

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    I got 2 computers running and I put them both when it ask for a name as kaganader, dunno if that would cause some conflict or not. the 2nd computer is doing prject 3062

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    You've done it right, ALL machines have your username and teamnumber the same including when you add GPU2. The only change you need to make is changing the GPU number if you run more than 1 on a single pc.

    Oh yea and ........... welcome aboard the PureOverclock Folding Team

    Edit: I've not had one of those projects yet
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    Default version 6.22 out

    I downloaded and installed version 6.22 of the SMP console today after I updated the GPU client.

    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther

    I may need to set SMP to accept larger projects, as you mentioned above, but I don't know how. Since I got it running, it isn't giving me the option on start up that it did at first. GD, Can you help?

    Also, how do I set affinity in the console version (there aren't any menu's:confused?
    Any other settings I missed that will help ppd?

    Fahmon says its only doing 352 ppd on the SMP, but no change on GPU client at 5120 ppd from before the SMP install. The "accept large projects" problem doesn't seem like it should matter to the tune of 1/5 the points you are getting with older client, what gives?

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    I don't Know this one at all well but for starters have a look at this

    http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=4271

    From the ppd I got a feeling that you missed the -smp flag

    I'll keep reading for more info......
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    From the ppd I got a feeling that you missed the -smp flag
    so people talk about adding flags, but I just don't get how. i tried adding it to the link in the shortcut but it tells me the link is now invalid. sorry, total nOOb question apparently:$

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    We are all noobs here with this.

    I'm starting my changeover tonight or tomorrow moving to maximus and 2 cards and then we will see if I can still do smp (probably just a single core cos of XP)

    Meanwhile I think I'll ask a contact to help you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    so people talk about adding flags, but I just don't get how. i tried adding it to the link in the shortcut but it tells me the link is now invalid. sorry, total nOOb question apparently:$
    Have a look at this link .....does it help?

    http://fahwiki.net/index.php/How_do_...sole_client%3F

    Then read similar problem post at Folding forum

    http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=4434

    The two are complimetary and should fix your problem also have another look at the first part of Solaris' dual GPU guide that might catch odd questions too.

    Might have some more help on this soon
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