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    Default Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril

    CHICAGO (MarketWatch) — Tucked into the U.S. Supreme Court’s agenda this fall is a little-known case that could upend your ability to resell everything from your grandmother’s antique furniture to your iPhone 4.
    At issue in Kirtsaeng v. John Wiley & Sons is the first-sale doctrine in copyright law, which allows you to buy and then sell things like electronics, books, artwork and furniture, as well as CDs and DVDs, without getting permission from the copyright holder of those products.



    Under the doctrine, which the Supreme Court has recognized since 1908, you can resell your stuff without worry because the copyright holder only had control over the first sale.
    Put simply, though Apple Inc. AAPL -0.36% has the copyright on the iPhone and Mark Owen has it on the book “No Easy Day,” you can still sell your copies to whomever you please whenever you want without retribution.
    That’s being challenged now for products that are made abroad, and if the Supreme Court upholds an appellate court ruling, it would mean that the copyright holders of anything you own that has been made in China, Japan or Europe, for example, would have to give you permission to sell it.
    “It means that it’s harder for consumers to buy used products and harder for them to sell them,” said Jonathan Band, an adjunct professor at Georgetown University Law Center, who filed a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of the American Library Association, the Association of College and Research Libraries and the Association for Research Libraries. “This has huge consumer impact on all consumer groups.”
    Another likely result is that it would hit you financially because the copyright holder would now want a piece of that sale.
    It could be your personal electronic devices or the family jewels that have been passed down from your great-grandparents who immigrated from Spain. It could be a book that was written by an American writer but printed and bound overseas, or an Italian painter’s artwork.
    There are implications for a variety of wide-ranging U.S. entities, including libraries, musicians, museums and even resale juggernauts eBay Inc. EBAY -3.55% and Craigslist. U.S. libraries, for example, carry some 200 million books from foreign publishers.
    “It would be absurd to say anything manufactured abroad can’t be bought or sold here,” said Marvin Ammori, a First Amendment lawyer and Schwartz Fellow at the New American Foundation who specializes in technology issues.
    The case stems from Supap Kirtsaeng’s college experience. A native of Thailand, Kirtsaeng came to America in 1997 to study at Cornell University. When he discovered that his textbooks, produced by Wiley, were substantially cheaper to buy in Thailand than they were in Ithaca, N.Y., he rallied his Thai relatives to buy the books and ship them to him in the United States.

    He then sold them on eBay, making upward of $1.2 million, according to court documents.
    Wiley, which admitted that it charged less for books sold abroad than it did in the United States, sued him for copyright infringement. Kirtsaeng countered with the first-sale doctrine.

    Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril - Jennifer Waters's Consumer Confidential - MarketWatch

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    Default Re: Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril

    Why does everyone have to be so d@mn greedy?!?!? Money is worst thing ever created!

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    Default Re: Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril

    I doubt this will happen

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    Default Re: Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril

    Yeah, even if it did pass I don't see an easy way they could regulate it anyway.

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    Default Re: Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril

    I agree with you Josh, it would be close to impossible to cover all sales of items being sold, then figuring out where they were made, this is basically a huge waist of time.

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    Default Re: Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril

    The fact that the Supreme Court took review of the case means its very unlikely that it will uphold the lower courts decision. I see the Justices sticking to the existing law and saying it applies to all products in our commerce stream.
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    Default Re: Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesLT3 View Post
    Why does everyone have to be so d@mn greedy?!?!? Money is worst thing ever created!
    Quite the opposite, it is an easy barter item, a placeholder if you will. The real problem is price fluctuation and how we now value money as a thing.

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