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    just checked this and read the cnet review. They seem to think it's amazing, but i don't buy it at all.

    If you want better sound quality from the get go, encode the files as lossless or 256k/320k mp3's. This rubbish Creative are spouting is pure marketing. If you want to do it properly:

    1) encode your files with the best audio quality you can afford, and use a lossless encoder if you have enough space on your mp3 player.

    2) choose an mp3 player which is known for its audio quality and headphone output. There are quite a few now, and you can always rely on Cowon, but some models by sandisk, sony, and others also hit audiophile quality.

    3) get decent headphones. For home use only, go for some open ended cans. For outdoor use where size and noise pollution is an issue, get some ECH ones.

    4) if you want to go one step further, get a headphone amp (portable ones exist). This will give you a clean, refinded and powerful headphone input.

    And i'll tell you now, creative sound cards do not sound anywhere near as good as the EMU cards, i've owned both, and the X-fi is bass heavy, but in a muffled way, the mids are dry and the highs are pretty inaccurate. It's a step up from integrated audio on a motherboard, but it's still pretty poor.

    Good luck with your decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
    just checked this and read the cnet review. They seem to think it's amazing, but i don't buy it at all.

    If you want better sound quality from the get go, encode the files as lossless or 256k/320k mp3's. This rubbish Creative are spouting is pure marketing. If you want to do it properly:

    1) encode your files with the best audio quality you can afford, and use a lossless encoder if you have enough space on your mp3 player.

    2) choose an mp3 player which is known for its audio quality and headphone output. There are quite a few now, and you can always rely on Cowon, but some models by sandisk, sony, and others also hit audiophile quality.

    3) get decent headphones. For home use only, go for some open ended cans. For outdoor use where size and noise pollution is an issue, get some ECH ones.

    4) if you want to go one step further, get a headphone amp (portable ones exist). This will give you a clean, refinded and powerful headphone input.

    And i'll tell you now, creative sound cards do not sound anywhere near as good as the EMU cards, i've owned both, and the X-fi is bass heavy, but in a muffled way, the mids are dry and the highs are pretty inaccurate. It's a step up from integrated audio on a motherboard, but it's still pretty poor.

    Good luck with your decision
    Are you Brazilian?

    I had a look at the EMU but the connectors are weird looks like a connector for a vga monitor how am i meant to connect that to my speakes? Whats EMU stand for anyways, the X-fi cards are really expensive compared to the EMU how comes then its better?

    plus 90% of my music is downloaded ( as i can't buy the music here) so mostly 192kbs or 128 kbs files so can't encode to 320kbs thats why I was considering buying the xmod as it upscales it?
    Last edited by salmonsteve; 11-02-2008 at 14:40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salmonsteve View Post
    Are you Brazilian?
    what an odd question :S
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    he asked that because i said i saw the HP monitor in Sao Paulo, i.e. In Brazil. I was there over xmas for holidays, got back just over a week ago.

    The EMU card is a professional recording card for producing music, so they have a few additional features, thats why they look a little odd. But in hindsight this card might be overkill for you. Still, these type of cards are the only way to get audiophile sound from a PC.

    Other than this, i don't think any mainstream cards offer this type of sound quality, so you may as well go for an X-fi.

    Just remember that if you go for a pro card in the end, you need to match it with equally decent parts, otherwise it's a waste of money. Using a high end card with PC speaker would net zero gains over an X-FI, but if you connect it to a headphone amp and Sennheiser HD650's, it will be noticable.

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    fair enough. at some point i think ill upgrade to that card, the x-fi is slowly seeming less impressive as i get used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
    he asked that because i said i saw the HP monitor in Sao Paulo, i.e. In Brazil. I was there over xmas for holidays, got back just over a week ago.

    The EMU card is a professional recording card for producing music, so they have a few additional features, thats why they look a little odd. But in hindsight this card might be overkill for you. Still, these type of cards are the only way to get audiophile sound from a PC.

    Other than this, i don't think any mainstream cards offer this type of sound quality, so you may as well go for an X-fi.

    Just remember that if you go for a pro card in the end, you need to match it with equally decent parts, otherwise it's a waste of money. Using a high end card with PC speaker would net zero gains over an X-FI, but if you connect it to a headphone amp and Sennheiser HD650's, it will be noticable.
    I love listening to music and want the best in sound quality, but right now at this time in my life i am a student who does not have the surpluss cash to endulge in. When im older with a good paying job I'd be wiling to spend a small fortune on a soundsystem until then my budget is very small. so buying amps and good speakers are out of the question.

    The best i can do is buy a air of decent headphones and sound card for a max total of £150.

    I connect my Hi-fi to the pc using one of those connectors (red for left speaker and white for right speaker) and set my hi-fi to aux audio. I connect the hi-fi to the pc using the headphone jack so as long as the EMU has a headphone jack i can connect to thats cool, does it?

    cheers and AAC or MP3 ?
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    here's all you need to know about ACC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding

    as for the emu card, the outputs are 1/4 inch mono jacks. What i did with mine is to use this http://www.audiospares.com/product.php?productid=81. It will plug into your hifi with this.

    Also, these types of cards don't heve a headphone connection and none of the 1/4 inch jacks are powered, so to use headphones you'll have to either connect them to the headphone out on your hifi, or buy a headphone amp: http://www.headphone.com/products/he...al-airhead.php. The great thing about the little headphone amp is it's portable, so you can use it on any audio player that has a line out.

    If i were you i'd start slowly and just concentrate on getting some new, decent headphones, see how you feel about the upgrade, and then maybe add to this at a later date, i wouldn't buy all this in one go just incase you feel disappointed in the end.

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    Hello Jameson,

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