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    Default Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    The introduction of the Frostbite 2 with Battlefield 3 last year threw down the gauntlet to other shooters. Visually, things have taken a step up, so it’s interesting to see how the other big shooter franchises like Call of Duty respond. Black Ops 2 was revealed just a few weeks ago, and while it’s been updated, it’s still running on the modified version of the id Tech 3 engine that the series has been using for years. Treyarch aren’t concerned.

    Mark Lamia spoke about the Black Ops 2 engine to One of Swords. “People always ask me, “Is this a new engine?” I liken it to people who live in an older house that has been remodeled,” he said. “Just because you’re remodeling the house and it will look new or it will have a new kitchen, you don’t tear out the foundation, or break out some of the framing. You might even go as hardcore as replacing the plumbing, and we will do that sort of thing, as an analogy. It’s a gross simplification, but it’s one way to say that. There’s a lot of good still in that foundation that you wouldn’t get rid of, and we don’t. We look to advance in the areas that support our game design.”


    The lighting system has been a big point of interest for Treyarch in Black Ops 2, and the team have the added constraint of trying to ensure that the game will run on consoles at 60 frames per second.
    “Engines, each time they get touched, they change. The creators alter them; they don’t modify what they don’t need to, and then they alter what they need to. You can’t make a competitive product if you’re not upgrading that engine along the way,” he added.
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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    They don't WANT to do a new engine. It'll cost too much and take too long to develop. They're going to milk this one as long as they possibly can. And because it's not terribly demanding, older hardware can run it, increasing its mainstream appeal. They don't care about cutting edge tech, they care about maximizing profit.

    But the same coding logic exists, endless streams of AI that keep spawning until you reach the trigger point in the map, the same non-destructible environments, and so on.

    They CAN'T change those things, no matter how much they "renovate" the existing engine. I've created several CoD maps and helped code mods as well, and CoD is an old engine that cannot change its fundamental structure no matter how they try to spin it.

    Same tired engine, same tired game design, same formulaic SP, same small MP maps. Nothing new to see here, move along people.

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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    I still love the games, and it's not going to stop me from buying this one lol

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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    I still love the games, and it's not going to stop me from buying this one lol
    Now they have Black Opps.

    Could have waited about a year for me to get thru COD MW3 first.
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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    At least the game will be available on Steam. That's a big plus in my book.
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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    Quote Originally Posted by samcr3 View Post
    at least the game will be available on steam. That's a big plus in my book.
    YUP!

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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    I've already heard comparisons of this game to Battlefield 3 from friends. Why do people do that? LOL Each game is in a league of their own for god's sake!

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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    I may look into this game. I didn't buy the first one.. I do have MW3 but I haven't played it much as I was really stuck on BF3...
    The larger maps, multi player options and realistic features on BF3 is what really drawed me to the game. But they are 2 diff games..

    I've been trying to play Diablo 3 for the last week, but have only been able to put 4 hours into the game so far.. All my friends are leveled up so high already. Its going to make it hard for me to catch up.

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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    I loved the black ops maps, they were so fun and exciting but the MW3 maps are dull and boring.

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    Default Re: Black Ops 2 doesn’t need a new engine

    I think that they should start over and make a new engine... it is so boring now, it's the same thing over and over. I started with COD4, after that I got MW2 and I was done, maybe they should add realism like BF3 or at least change it a little. They could start by making large maps like BF, then I would play their games. The only thing I find that attracts me to the game is the zombie mode.

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