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    Hi all
    I am in the middle of the slowest rebuild EVER !!!!! lol but i am getting there.
    I just got me a new SSD with W7 Pro along with my newly arrived Storm Trooper.
    Next month i plan to by a Gigabyte Windforce R9 290, so the plan for this year is to get a new MB and CPU
    Issue i have is, i already have 24gig of Corsair Vengeance

    Corsair Memory Vengeance Black 24GB DDR3 1600MHz CAS 9 XMP Triple Channel Desktop - CMZ24GX3M6A1600C9 - Scan.co.uk

    So i really would like to utilize this on the new board.
    My old i7 950 is OC'ed to 4GHz but i would prefer to buy a top range CPU and not have to OC just yet, but may want to at some other time.
    I have a H80 which is good at the mo so dont need to upgrade there....yet H100 is calling me lol
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    So its just a MB upgrade and CPU to match hopefully using my existing RAM, i also dont mind spending upto 600 ish on these 2 items, i can move on that but not much.

    Can anyone offer any suggestions please, thank you

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    I would start by looking at the MSI board's. The INTEL Z87 Chipset with I7 OR I5 cpu.

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    Too bad you are overseas or I would sell you a gigabyte z87x-ud4h Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD4H LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

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    Any of those with your CPU choice. personally I think the i7-4770k is for show. Performance isn't much higher then the i5-4770k. The i5 is also a better overclocker and doesn't have as much heat to deal with. You cant run all of your memory on the 1150 platform, only 4 of your sticks. If you want to run all you will have to move to the socket 2011 platform which cost a bit more but you have options! See below

    Budget - 600=$984us

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    ASUS Sabertooth X79 $319
    GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 $239
    Evga Dark X79- $399

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    i7-3930k(6core)$569

    There are ways to mix and match and still be within your budget and have a rocking system. Even if you went with the Evga Dark X79 and the i7-3930k you are right at your budget with a price tag of $968. The low end with a Evga X79 Classy and the i7-4820k you would be at $588 leaving you money for whatever else you may need for your build. fan controllers, Water cooling if you wanted, Money towards a 2nd GPU.
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    Wow, this is great reading guys, thanks. I will look over your suggestions and post back for some clarification of suitability. i MUST use all the 24gig as 2 of my programs are 3D animation software that rely on CPU speed and MB RAM quantity rather then GPU.

    Looking at those choices my RAM looks to be a problem as it triple channel and most of those MB are Quad !? really didnt want to buy a whole bunch of new RAM
    I want a top end CPU i7 or i5 which ever is the biggest and fastest bang for my buck, the MB only really needs to be a really good one, not top end and one that
    supports 6 slots of triple channel... is there such a thing ?

    Question is.....am i going to have to buy different RAM now, rather then upgrade a MB and CPU that is ultimately held back by the RAM i have........i think i may know your answer :/

    OR..will a quad channel MB run triple channel RAM in the right slots.......then in the future i could upgarde to quad channel with a new RAM package ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee-R View Post
    Wow, this is great reading guys, thanks. I will look over your suggestions and post back for some clarification of suitability. i MUST use all the 24gig as 2 of my programs are 3D animation software that rely on CPU speed and MB RAM quantity rather then GPU.
    Keep the ideas coming but for now i have some options. Cheers peeps
    Thanks, but in this case (using all 6x4Gb memory modules), the only choice for you will be the X79 LGa 2011 mobo (8 memory slots), paired with SB-E or IB-E processor (any of Cyber suggestions). My preferred will be:
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    Yep you can run triple channel or you might consider adding Corsair Memory Vengeance Black 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 XMP Dual Channel Desktop Sandybridge Ready - CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 - Scan.co.uk.

    x79 is the natural path up from that which you have but I am going to ask...... Why do you want to upgrade ?? what is it that you seek that your current rig cannot do ??
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    Good question Grump simple......i am getting into gaming (Skyrim has its hooks into me) and these new GPU's like the Gigabyte r9 290 are Sata III 6Gb/s and my old board bottle necks some modern kit i may choose :/ including my new SSD ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee-R View Post
    Good question Grump simple......i am getting into gaming (Skyrim has its hooks into me) and these new GPU's like the Gigabyte r9 290 are Sata III 6Gb/s and my old board bottle necks some modern kit i may choose :/ including my new SSD ?
    The VGA cards are PCIE 3.0/2.0, the HDDs are SATA 2 (3GB/s) or Sata 3 (6GB/s). The difference between PCIE 2.0 y PCIE 3.0 is very simple.... almost no difference. I don't think that AMD r9 290 will bottleneck your processor (i7 950 can handle it esasy), for that reason you don't need to change your system, but if you want some brute force for yours 3D software you can go with an upgrade.

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    I here ya, but arent these new i7 cpu's faster then my old 950 ? more cores or something......it was just a natural progression thinking MB and CPU was the way to go if i am wrong.....great i am 600 up lol

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    I here ya, but arent these new i7 cpu's faster then my old 950 ? more cores or something......it was just a natural progression thinking MB and CPU was the way to go if i am wrong.....great i am 600 up lol
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    I would like you to read something..... I covered a little of this quite recently when trying to help an Aussie girl

    Upgrade or New build? | eTeknix Forums

    I really don't think you will notice any difference in cpu speed (over 4.0 at least) when gaming

    I think you meant pci-e 2.0 vs pci-e 3.0 with the gpu's

    Sata2 vs Sata3 is something else again and admittedly 3 will be faster... but I question whether a whole platform upgrade would be worth it for your usage
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    I am totally liking both your opinions on this lol i use Poser Pro and 3DsMAX both CPU / RAM heavy programs due to the texture size applications i use and the CPU heavy render engines.



    EDIT....thats a great read that post Mike thanks. looking at that, i seem to have a great rig apart from upgrading to a R9 chuffed

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    I am totally liking both your opinions on this lol i use Poser Pro and 3DsMAX both CPU / RAM heavy programs due to the texture size applications i use and the CPU heavy render engines.
    In that case you'll see some notable improvements with the X79 LGA 2011 platform over to your X58 LGA 1366, but like Grumpy said the improvements in gaming is almost 0. Also agree with Grumpy about increasing your RAM (buying 2 modules more of the same you already have), and be able to take full advantage of 32GB of quad channel RAM memory, but for all this you will need to increase your budget for about 100 - 120 more (RIVF + 4700K + 2x4GB RAM).

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