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    Default boot problems...

    Hey guys.

    Been a while since i've stopped by in here, sadly... But once again I seek help/advise.

    Recently, my rig have started to shut down without warning, and following very troublesome booting.. mostly, the blue LED lights up and i hear the fans start, but within 2 seconds (literally) it shuts. Then it just tries to start, but every time it cuts within 2 seconds.. this can go on for hours..
    The few times it does boot, it often gives the 'overclocking failed' message.
    Its generally very unstable with varying reactions to boot attempts..

    The funny thing though, is that i've found that it boots no problem if i remove the case side door and disconnect the fan attached..

    Anyone has any idea what may cause this..?
    Maybe a bit drastic, but i'm thinking about getting a new cpu and mobo..might as well with these issues right?

    Thanks in advance for any replies or advise.

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    Default Re: boot problems...

    I'm on my phone using tapatalk so I can't see your PC specs.

    Well first I would say that is a thermal issue. If it shuts down then you leave it alone for a few minutes then try to boot again it will make it further then if you reboot immediately after shutdown. If so it is for sure a thermal issue. Before I say check thermal paste we need to address the root cause.

    Your cooling solution is either not good enough to cool the overclocker CPU or it is installed incorrectly. Like old or not enough thermal paste.

    Your error regarding your oc is a sign of instability. We need to know what you OC settings are. You could have tried to reach a stable OC by cranking up core voltage leading to increase heat.

    Run memory at stock settings until you get a stable CPU OC.

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    Default Re: boot problems...

    hmmmmmmm... that doesn't sound good at all. Have you tried replacing your BIOS battery? If it stays in an endless loop of trying to post and won't, then that would be a really simple/cheap fix to try. Definitely try what Sandy suggested above (assuming you can get to the BIOS), set memory and CPU back to stock and see if it will still boot. your BIOS coming back with a failed overclock messgae tells me that something is definitely up in the BIOS, whether or not it's ACTUALLY bad overclock settings remains to be seen. You might also want to try reseating your memory... I mean heck, worst case scenario you wated what, two minutes? Those are really the least intrusive variables I could think of, though if you do see temps getting really high then you might also want to consider reapplying your thermal paste and making sure the cooler is still positioned properly. Since you'd be right there, take your CPU out and check out the terminals on the back of the CPU and the pins int he socket and make sure nothing looks amiss; when I had my i7 fail on me, I took out the CPU and noticed that the entire bottom row of terminals on the CPU were tarnished like crazy, like they had been exposed to more voltage than what was initially intended for some reason (oddly enough the board it was in is still running great, so it was definitely a CPU problem). If none of that seems to fix the problem... then yeah, I'd go ahead and say replace motherboard and CPU. your hardwre listed in the hardware specs is a bit long in the tooth now, and even though for things like gaming it still performs reasonably well there is newer stuff out there now that uses way less power, overclocks pretty well, and has the newer instruction sets associated with newer software and code.

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    Default Re: boot problems...

    thanks for good replies.. i've tested the oc settings, and as long as i leave the side door fan unplugged it works fine. tried resetting the bios settings to stock, but still the same problem. bottom line, the side door fan seems to be the boot breaker. tried reseating the ram, graphics card, and all other components, no noticeable problems. temps are not an issue, never goes beyond 75c on full load. the problems seem to only appear as soon as i connect the side door fan, so i'm thinking there's some kind of connection problem on the mobo (in relation with the connection point for the fan)?

    and yeah, both mobo and cpu is closing retirement age...
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    Default Re: boot problems...

    Where you are plugging the side door fan? to board header or to PSU molex? Try connect another fan to same header where you connecting side fan to be sure is it fan or header. If your problem is board fan header solution is very simple don't use it, connect your side fan via molex directly to PSU or use another board header. If your problem is faulty fan replace it. Overclock fail message some times could be faulty message, but for any case do what Cyber said.

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    Default Re: boot problems...

    Have you ran a good Overclock stability test and have results? Occt helped me with some wierd issues that I was having, turned out my vcore wasn't quite high enough. The reboots do sound like unstable overclocks. Also, when you set up your overclocks, did you check that your ram timings are set right. You might need to load an xmp profile or set the timings and voltages manually to make sure everything loads right.

    Like Cyber said, maybe run core temp, and check your bios cpu temps too. Make sure they aren't spiking super high. But I wouldn't think you computer would ever boot, side panel or not if you were instantly spiking past safe temps as soon as you turned it on.
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    Default Re: boot problems...

    All good tips, and i thank you for taking the time help me out, but everything seems to check out fine.. I just got the funds approved by the financial manager over here (the mrs), so i'm thinking to hell with it. It would've been nice to save it, but i don't think i have the time to put in too effort..just needed to check with the experts first.. I've been looking to upgrade a little bit anyway, so now i have an excuse...
    But thanks a lot, guys.. It is indeed very much appreciated!
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