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    Default Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    I'm trying to figure out what the best choices are for a non-gaming machine that will mostly be used for many-tab browsing, home office tasks, etc. My main thought is to go with an integrated graphics CPU to eliminate the cost of a GPU since it won't be used for gaming. I had been looking into the FX-6300, FX-8320, and FX-8350 because of their awesome performance for their price, but then realized that they don't have integrated graphics so I assume they would need a graphics card and that defeats the point. I'm not only looking at AMD, by the way, those were just real standouts in the price range until I realized they had no graphics. I'm not sure where to look next. I-5 quad core or A8 perhaps? I'm going to be building this PC for a friend who NEVER plays games and he mainly just wants it to be FAST and of course cheap. lol

    (As you could probably tell by the previous choices, the budget should be around $150, but is flexible. Just want the most bang for the buck.)

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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    Take a look at the A8 or A10 APU's.. both have great performance to value and good integrated graphics for what he's looking to do.
    If you are near a Micro Center, you can pick up a A10 7850K and MB combo deal there and save some money.
    i have this processor and its great on its own.

    Nothing gaming worthy, but for your avg. joe internet browser, it does the job at a good price.

    Also, it doesn't require a high powered PSU unit to push everything.
    If you want a little more out of the GPU side later, you can always add a R7 250 and use its dual graphics mode to help push that end of things a little.

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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    I'll take the other point of view. I'd probably use an Pentium G3420 $65 with a decent 1150 board. Alternatively an i3-4150 @$104 with an OK board should get you in the ballpark. If the $150 budget is just for the CPU, you could push up to an i3 4370 for $148, or an i5 4590 for around $170.

    Personally, given his workload and _desire_ for performance, I'd probably go for the low end i5, and a good mid capacity SSD (480-500G with 8-16GB of RAM. Windows will load like greased lightning and he'll never doubt he's got a lot of performance. However...even if you dropped down to the i3-4370, it should still meet his workload. (Honestly, my Bay Trail could probably do it too! LOL). The i3 pulls 54 Watts, and the i5 pulls 84. With no Graphics card, and no Spinning Disk, you could easily use a quality Sub 450 Watt PSU, possibly even a 250, but I doubt you'd get anything truly quality in that wattage range. BUT, this might work: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (CS450M) - PCPartPicker $38 with $20 in rebates....not bad.

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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    I had a thought when looking through the available MBs on PartsPicker. I rarely ever think about it because it's always been nearly useless for anything I'd actually build for myself, but what about motherboards with onboard graphics? Would it be feasible (or recommendable) to use something like an FX-6300 on a MB with onboard video to substitute for integrated graphics? I know this is probably a stupid question, but like I said I know next to nothing about onboard video because I've never even thought of building something that would make it relevant.

    (Nevermind: I believe I've answered my own question. The only FX compatible MBs with onboard video that I can find would a complete waste of an FX-6300 CPU... unless I'm missing something. Oh well, it was a crazy thought to begin with.)
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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by HyperactiveSloth View Post
    (Nevermind: I believe I've answered my own question. The only FX compatible MBs with onboard video that I can find would a complete waste of an FX-6300 CPU... unless I'm missing something. Oh well, it was a crazy thought to begin with.)
    Good Answer! LOL.

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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    I'll take the other point of view. I'd probably use an Pentium G3420 $65 with a decent 1150 board. Alternatively an i3-4150 @$104 with an OK board should get you in the ballpark. If the $150 budget is just for the CPU, you could push up to an i3 4370 for $148, or an i5 4590 for around $170.

    Personally, given his workload and _desire_ for performance, I'd probably go for the low end i5, and a good mid capacity SSD (480-500G with 8-16GB of RAM. Windows will load like greased lightning and he'll never doubt he's got a lot of performance. However...even if you dropped down to the i3-4370, it should still meet his workload. (Honestly, my Bay Trail could probably do it too! LOL). The i3 pulls 54 Watts, and the i5 pulls 84. With no Graphics card, and no Spinning Disk, you could easily use a quality Sub 450 Watt PSU, possibly even a 250, but I doubt you'd get anything truly quality in that wattage range. BUT, this might work: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (CS450M) - PCPartPicker $38 with $20 in rebates....not bad.

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    I am with you on this one. I have a couple of A8 and A10 based systems that I use, as well as a couple of Pentium/i3 based systems using on chip GPU. The difference is night and day. While the AMDs have better gaming graphics, the Intels blow them away in every other usage, and it isn't even close. The A8/A10 systems make me feel like I stepped through a time warp to 2005 when I use them. Even the G840 rig I use is much quicker and more responsive than the A8/A10 rigs.

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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    With a $150 budget, the i5 is tough to come by. even with a decent i3, after his motherboard he's not gonna stay within his budget. Which is the only reason why I didn't suggest any of the Intel set up. The G3258 and a decent board is a great combo. I've used a couple of those myself, but if he plans on sticking on the onboard or iGPU, its not the best.

    If you can find a good i3 with a decent board, like Scott said, that is a great option and will beat out AMD any day, but if you are trying to stay under budget, the AMD A series will fit the bill and perform good as well. AMD and Intel both have there benefits and there place. IMO, for what he's looking to do, I don't think he will notice that much of a diff between the 2 set ups. However, if he can fork up the money for a i5, i'd get that any day over any AMD system.

    This also will add to better future upgrades.

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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    I meant $150 for just the CPU as a comparison since the FX chips I was looking at were in the $100-$150 range. Sorry, should have been more specific.

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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by HyperactiveSloth View Post
    I meant $150 for just the CPU as a comparison since the FX chips I was looking at were in the $100-$150 range. Sorry, should have been more specific.
    Ahh... That makes more sense now.. Lolz..

    If that was the case, yes, I would try to find a i5. You can find some pretty good deals on Newegg and TD lately.
    Match that up with a mid range Z97 motherboard and the i5s HD 4400 iGPU, you are set to go and get much better performance than any of the AMD chips can do in the same budget.

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    Default Re: Input on CPU for non-gaming machine?

    Based on my last conversation with him I think we'll likely be going with something like an i3-4160... but that could change tomorrow. lol

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