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    Default Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?


    Hello.
    Eh getting weird problem with Windows 10 Pro.

    So few days ago when i ran memtest few hours without error, but after finished test i reboot pc and Automatiic repair started before windows. Is this something with memory ? Memory trigger that error? Or it is software issue? Coincidence ?

    When starting Windows 10 boot loader starts by "preparing automatic repair" and diagnosing pc.
    Interesting is that if I restart Windows (after procedure mentioned earlier) it will boot normally. This startup problem occurs only when starting system again after shutdown.

    My disk is Samsung Evo 250 GB SSD. I run HD TUNE but no errors and CrystalDiskInfo Smart is fine 100% GOOD. Rams are 2x8gb DDR3 Kingston Hyperx 1600mhhz.

    Memtest86 not showing errors.




    So its a hardware related or not? What you think about it ? Thx for answer.

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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    At a guess (purely a guess), I'd estimate that something is getting corrupted on shutdown. A file handle isn't getting closed correctly, and leaving the filesystem marked as being in an unknown state. So the boot loader sees the flag and runs a "repair" (checkdisk, registry check, whatever).

    I'd look at your Windows Update logs and see if you've had a failed Windows Update. I'd also consider running a registry scan and checking your autostarts for tray programs that might not be necessary, and may not be operating properly or closing properly.

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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    What's your motherboard/CPU combo?

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    4790k STOCK, Asus SAbertooth Z97 Mark 2 and Corsair 750 RM.





    So why it happened? Is this something with my hardware?

    I just reboot my pc after 5 hours session of memtest86. And then...
    I Cant boot to windows 10 after first boot because it showed Automatic Repair. Interesting is that if I restart Windows (after procedure mentioned earlier) it will boot normally. This startup problem occurs only when starting system again after shutdown or clicking restart from Windows.
    So i was need two boots to boot properly to system.


    When on second boot i succesfully boot to Windows.


    Somebody said to me: " Memory that is going bad, or just not perfectly configured in the bios can have good days where everything goes ok"


    What you think about this?
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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    Have you tried resetting your bios settings? to eliminate a boot issue

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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    So i formatted disk , install again Windows 10 , now Windows booting fine without automatic repair. But i tried to reproduce issue by running memtest86 again. So i run test for 5 hours, stop test and booted Windows 10. This time it booted fine without automatic repair. So i guess its fine. But i want to know why it happened earlier just before format? That was still hardware issue? Thx for opinion. Somebody said that can be caused by bad ram. Like i said after format is ok. But i want to know why it happened before format. What caused this ,software ,hardware?

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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by sew333 View Post
    So i formatted disk , install again Windows 10 , now Windows booting fine without automatic repair. But i tried to reproduce issue by running memtest86 again. So i run test for 5 hours, stop test and booted Windows 10. This time it booted fine without automatic repair. So i guess its fine. But i want to know why it happened earlier just before format? That was still hardware issue? Thx for opinion. Somebody said that can be caused by bad ram. Like i said after format is ok. But i want to know why it happened before format. What caused this ,software ,hardware?

    As I mentioned the other day, I expect this was just a Windows Update or configuration glitch. Re-installing Windows likely overwrote the problem update/config file and all is well. However, it _could_ still re-occur, likely if it turns out it was a bad update or driver that is installed by Windows Update or by a secondary application (Like MSI's LiveUpdate or similar utilities). As you mentioned, it _could_ be a hardware issue, but given that everything works Right Now, I'm leaning towards software. Keep an eye on the Windows Update log, and make note of any software you install. I'd also probably grab CCLeaner and run the Registry Clean periodically, as well as forcing some system Restore Points periodically.

    But, as usual, your mileage may vary. Good Luck!

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    I am wondering only, why it get corrupted to Automatic Repair even one single time,even once. We know that after memtest was propably coincidence. But why it happened even once. I think if all is stable or running properly shouldnt happen even one single time. What you think?

    I changed in BIOS boot from SSD to USB to boot memtest. Then after finished test memtest86 i change boot again from USB to SSD and then Automatic Repair started.

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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by sew333 View Post
    I am wondering only, why it get corrupted to Automatic Repair even one single time,even once. We know that after memtest was propably coincidence. But why it happened even once. I think if all is stable or running properly shouldnt happen even one single time. What you think?

    I changed in BIOS boot from SSD to USB to boot memtest. Then after finished test memtest86 i change boot again from USB to SSD and then Automatic Repair started.
    You're absolutely right that if the system is stable, and all is well, this should never happen. What you're describing makes sense if the file system on the SSD isn't getting properly closed, or a critical file is corrupted on shutdown. It won't happen on the Memtest USB, as Memtest likely doesn't write anything to the USB, in fact, I'd be surprised if it ever did anything but read into RAM and then run (unless you choose to save settings or a log). On the other hand, Win10 writes tons of stuff at shutdown, and if there is a glitchy program/driver doing something improperly, it can leave the SSD in a strange state. Worst part is that its possible it can work sometimes and not work others. Basically, because something goes wrong on shutdown, Windows sets a flag on the file system that triggers your Automatic Repair. So, really this is just an indicator...digging out the problem can be frustrating as you've found. Prior to this problem, had you installed anything new or updated anything?

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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    No anything new installed , some programs only and games installed, thats all. Like i said it happens once just before format i dont know why.

    I repeat again , exactly what i get:
    When starting Windows 10 boot loader starts by "preparing automatic repair" and diagnosing pc.
    Interesting is that if I restart Windows (after procedure mentioned earlier) it will boot normally. This startup problem was occured only when starting system again after shutdown or restarted pc from windows.So i was needed 2 boots to boot properly to windows.
    So boot to windows was possible. And i am thinking that with faulty hardware i cant boot no matter how much boots?!


    What you think? So you think that was hardware related still?
    So my system is not stable even it happened once? What you think about it?
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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by sew333 View Post
    So boot to windows was possible. And i am thinking that with faulty hardware i cant boot no matter how much boots?!
    What you think? So you think that was hardware related still?
    Well...if the hardware was faulty, it's LIKELY that you are correct. Or at least it would be more consistent. I'd say it was almost certainly a software problem. Could have just been an odd combination of driver versions that cause a glitch. Re-loading Win10 yielded a fresh set of WHQL drivers, and you're probably good.

    Has it happened since you formatted and re-installed 10? I'm thinking by what you've written, the answer is No. If true, then I'd say that's a pretty good indicator that it isn't a hardware issue.

    Just out of curiosity, was your previous build of Windows 10 an in place upgrade from Windows 7 or a fresh install of Windows 10?

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    Yes all is fine now I am playing THE DIVISION BETA and no crashing, system booting normal even after memtestes86 sessions ( tried few times ).

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    Default Re: Windows 10 - automatic repair after memtest session - hardware faulty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by sew333 View Post
    Yes all is fine now I am playing THE DIVISION BETA and no crashing, system booting normal even after memtestes86 sessions ( tried few times ).
    Excellent news. OK then I'd say you're likely good to go. Most likely it was a weird driver issue that caused a shutdown glitch, that then kicked off the automatic response. Keep an eye on temps, Windows Update logs/messages and any driver updates. If it happens again, you might find the smoking gun!

    In the meantime, enjoy THE DIVISION!

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    Also i have last question little offtopic. SO my card is Asus Strix 980 ti oc and 4790k. And i have fps on maxed details with SMAA ULTRA and 1920x1080 , from 55-100fps. Is this normal not too low?

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    Sadly, I couldn't tell you. One of the other peeps here will have to address that. Personally, with Max details and SMAA Ultra I'd think 55-100 FPS is flipping incredible. Certainly playable! But I'm not sure what the 980 is capable of in your system and with that game!

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    With all those settings described, the FPS are OK.

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