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    and 2 hard drives with 244 GB of memory on each...

    I play all games on the highest settings, even crysis. But crysis does give me some problems, and I cant run it at the highest resolution... What can I do to my computer, meaning replace of my parts with a new part, to really max my computers performance... Thanks guys! (and please only answer if you knowe what your talking about =P) and nothing over like, 400 $

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    a faster CPU would help

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    which motherboard? and what screen / screensize
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    Toxic,
    First of all welcome to PureOC and secondly if you are seeking for advice don't sound demanding. You take on much advice as you can, as a gain of salt and digest it, not any body have the expertise equally and I'm sure everyone on this forums are all eager to help you out. I'm been long enough to tell you that I haven't seen any sacarstic answers or remarks and we're not tolerant it.

    Get back to your question without knowing your mobo, it's look like this your new budget built?
    You have couple issues here with your hardware and I'm going to concentrate the question is about playing games at max out the settings.

    There are not many graphic cards can handle games at highest settings and especially with Crysic. If you are really want to play at everything turn on high then you should consider the 4870X2 or GTX280 or even to go with Crossfire or SLI with these card. So this is out of your budget. That's the first issue.

    Second issue is your processor, if you pair this processor with the above cards then it will bottleneck the grfx card. I'm not even suggesting what CPU to upgrade because it's going over your budget.

    HD4850 is a good card for medium settings, so you should happy with its capablilty since your rig is a budget system. BTW, if you go with X2 or the GTX280 then you should have a minimum of 24" monitor or you will wasted money on those cards.

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    1. Depends what resolution you're playing at. Anything above 1280 rez and crysis will start to look like a slideshow unless you have some INSANE hardware. So don't expect butter-smooth frames in Crysis, won't happen.

    2. A faster CPU will help, but it will not magically improve Crysis much at all. You can get the best CPU on the planet and it won't make it run "smooth" unless you have the uber graphics cards to buy as well........in which case you're looking at least $1500 which is not an option here. And spending that much money on a $60 game that wasn't the greatest........meh. In any case though....

    3. Add another 4850 in Crossfire.

    Great CPU, good GPU = good gaming
    Good CPU, great GPU = great gaming



    You system is good, no question. But it will not give smooth and great performance in Crysis, and a $400 upgrade won't truly fix it either. But adding another 4850 will help the most of everything. But above 1280 resolution don't expect any miracles, Crysis just isn't that game. So don't get frustrated though, you and a million other people are in the same boat, so don't expect to change that with a few hundred bucks. Just won't happen.



    Bottom line: add another 4850 for a good price and that's the best you're gonna be able to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Toxic,
    First of all welcome to PureOC and secondly if you are seeking for advice don't sound demanding. You take on much advice as you can, as a gain of salt and digest it, not any body have the expertise equally and I'm sure everyone on this forums are all eager to help you out. I'm been long enough to tell you that I haven't seen any sacarstic answers or remarks and we're not tolerant it.

    Get back to your question without knowing your mobo, it's look like this your new budget built?
    You have couple issues here with your hardware and I'm going to concentrate the question is about playing games at max out the settings.

    There are not many graphic cards can handle games at highest settings and especially with Crysic. If you are really want to play at everything turn on high then you should consider the 4870X2 or GTX280 or even to go with Crossfire or SLI with these card. So this is out of your budget. That's the first issue.

    Second issue is your processor, if you pair this processor with the above cards then it will bottleneck the grfx card. I'm not even suggesting what CPU to upgrade because it's going over your budget.

    HD4850 is a good card for medium settings, so you should happy with its capablilty since your rig is a budget system. BTW, if you go with X2 or the GTX280 then you should have a minimum of 24" monitor or you will wasted money on those cards.
    Well put.
    Although out of personal experience, and I'm sure it'll show in my "4870x2 vs gtx280" thread, 24" is getting a little too much for the gtx280. The x2 (and all ATI cards for that matter) likes AA a little more than the Nvidia cards. So I would recommend 1280x1024 and 1680x1024 as the two perfect resolutions for a single gtx280. 1920x1200 and aa calls for dual gpu like x2 or SLI.

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    Where would you put the gx2 in this argument...ok so the tech is a little older but at $290 for air and under $350 for the watercooled versions it has become a good deal financially
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    Very good deal, its performance is up there with the gtx280 with games that scale well. Theres is some issues with heat generated by the gx2, but with a well ventilated case its well worth it. Definitely a good buy. . . Allthough a 4870 is a close call between the two, depending what you can get it for.

    End of the day it comes down to your specific needs. I love the 280gtx for two reasons.

    1) Doesn't generate as much heat as the 4870x2, bigger die means better cooling options and overclocking.

    2)It perfoms really well when it comes to multimedia and video convertion/rendering.

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    yep heat is an issue....I'm folding mine at 42 and 46 deg above ambient fan on full together with all fans full in the antec900...LOUD.

    Does the 4870x2 dump heat into the case too?
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    If its a referencwe built it should push outside via 2nd pci slot. But some of third party collers just spread it in the case

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