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    I just got myself a set of Logitech Z5500D
    Its one hell of a speaker and kinda overkill
    Problem is i dont have much knowledge or in fact NO knowledge on maximizing the use of this set of speakers

    Some people are recommending the use of Optical cable with this set of speakers to enjoy best
    sound quality?
    what about analog? are they much more inferior as compared to Digital?

    What sound card works best on the Z5500D?

    I've also read from other forums that using the Z5500D's onboard hardware decoder on optical SPIDF on 5.1 virtualization mode (Dolby Digital Live, DTS Interactive) for prolonged periods kills the onboard hardware decoder :confused:

    Any help appreciated...thanks in advance


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    wow that's one killer sound setup

    I've been reading around and what I've turned up is that the best way to connect this to your PC is with the 6 channel direct connect.

    I've read that the Supreme FX II X-Fi will do the job fine for music and home theater use but for gaming you might want to upgrade to a Xonar D2(X), Xonar STX Essense, Xonar HDAV1.3, or Auzentech Prelude/Forte. The Xonar cards also double up as fantastic home theater cards.

    As for a Creative cards I'd be inclined to say that they fall short of the Asus's Xonar as of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xApemanx View Post
    wow that's one killer sound setup

    I've been reading around and what I've turned up is that the best way to connect this to your PC is with the 6 channel direct connect.

    I've read that the Supreme FX II X-Fi will do the job fine for music and home theater use but for gaming you might want to upgrade to a Xonar D2(X), Xonar STX Essense, Xonar HDAV1.3, or Auzentech Prelude/Forte. The Xonar cards also double up as fantastic home theater cards.

    As for a Creative cards I'd be inclined to say that they fall short of the Asus's Xonar as of late.

    Thanks Ape ...
    i presume that if were to go with 6 channel direct connect that is going to be on Analog not Digital ?
    Isn't digital connection better?

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    I use the speakers through direct input, and it sounds great. As for comparisons with the other inputs, all I can do is direct you to another forum's thread that answers what might be many of your questions. They conclude direct input is the way to go. Hope it helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewslox View Post
    I use the speakers through direct input, and it sounds great. As for comparisons with the other inputs, all I can do is direct you to another forum's thread that answers what might be many of your questions. They conclude direct input is the way to go. Hope it helps!

    Thanks Jews
    That really helped clarified ... it seems that Direct connection is still the best...
    Any suggestions on the type of sound card i should purchase?

    I am leaning more towards ASUS Xona DX

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    I REALLY want to get my hands on one of those to compare it to the Creative Fata1ty Pro, I'm dying to hear the difference, not to mention the driver setups, etc. Also love that it's a PCI-e setup and will stay out of the way of the graphics cards on the Rampage board.

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    I personally won't touch an ASUS Xonar card. Creative labs, which owns the patents for EAX 3, 4, and 5, did not release their technology for use by ASUS. There are talks about the owners of these cards filing a class-action lawsuit against ASUS for falsely advertising EAX 5 support.

    Personally, I say stick with what works. If you need EAX for gaming, stick with Creative labs, however terrible there driver support may be. If you are an audiophile, then I say go for HT|Omega. Their sound cards may be PCI only, but are some of the best around. Especially if you spring for the Claro Halo XT that has a built in headphone amplifier.

    The AuzenTech cards lood promising as well, but seem to be lacking some driver support.

    Oh, it should go without saying that converting your media library over to FLAC format will greatly enhance your listening pleasure. Just don't try to convert from MP3 to FLAC, always convert from the CD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    I REALLY want to get my hands on one of those to compare it to the Creative Fata1ty Pro, I'm dying to hear the difference, not to mention the driver setups, etc. Also love that it's a PCI-e setup and will stay out of the way of the graphics cards on the Rampage board.
    Not Necessary even with the PCI-E Xonar it might not work for some Rampage users like myself.
    The original PCI-E where the Supreme FXII sits will not work with the Xonar as it is too long and cannot be installed as the NB heatsink is in the way

    The next PCI-E is located right after the first PCI-E video Card Slot and it is also a no go for any1 who owns a dual slot video card.

    The only available slot will be the Legacy PCI slot that comes right after the 2nd Video PCI-E slot and that will not work if you have Dual video cards in SLI or CrossFire :mad:

    Now the question is will the PCI-E Xonar work on the Legacy PCI slot?

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    Not an expert in soundcards nor pc speaker systems, what i use is a Denon Dolby DTS receiver, 2 seperate larger front speakers for stereo and if needed i turn the Dolby on and using the rest of the dolby speakers, and using digital optical connection from (now) the onboard I/O, there's your home entertainment full throttle

    Personal experience is that the digital/optical gives you abit more volume and spectrum in the sound, both in lower and in higher pitch/tones lewels. It really pics up, both in games, music and movies.
    Soundcard, i think the SupremeFX that R2E have is excellent!


    My other 50 cent, is a set of Empire series stereo speakers on my other system, they blow out every other "regular" PC Stereo speakers i've ever heard.

    Looking forward to what your sollution will be.

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    Thanks ben,your input,
    i believe that the Supreme FX on the R2E is sufficent but i am wondering how do i enabled Digital output to the speakers?

    Since you are using Optical output to your speakers where in the driver is there an option that enables the sound output to digital?

    I've hooked up my speakers via the Coaxial which is the same as Optical but the Supreme FX seems to be producing sound on Analog mode? :confused:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    Thanks ben,your input,
    i believe that the Supreme FX on the R2E is sufficent but i am wondering how do i enabled Digital output to the speakers?

    Since you are using Optical output to your speakers where in the driver is there an option that enables the sound output to digital?

    I've hooked up my speakers via the Coaxial which is the same as Optical but the Supreme FX seems to be producing sound on Analog mode? :confused:
    Your using a coaxial (spdif) cable, not fiber cable right? Well actually i couldent get the Optical output to work on the R2E's Supreme, though in the Mixer there are the options for digital/HD/spdif, (i havent a Coaxial cable, only fiber-optic) when i plug'd in the stereo analog mini-jack cable it worked, is that the same problem you have?

    But if you are running a Coaxial (spdif), wich provide digital bit transfer, how do you know its producing in analog mode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenchWarmer View Post
    Your using a coaxial (spdif) cable, not fiber cable right? Well actually i couldent get the Optical output to work on the R2E's Supreme, though in the Mixer there are the options for digital/HD/spdif, (i havent a Coaxial cable, only fiber-optic) when i plug'd in the stereo analog mini-jack cable it worked, is that the same problem you have?

    But if you are running a Coaxial (spdif), wich provide digital bit transfer, how do you know its producing in analog mode?

    Edit/* Forgot to congrat you on that Killer set

    2*nd edit/ Maybe i misunderstood you? :$
    sorry if my initial msg wasn't clear
    yeah i am using Coaxial cable, i dont have an optical cable at the moment but i might go pick one up from the audio stores

    Can you specifically tell me which Mixer you were referring to where there are options for digital HD SPDIF?

    okay to the other question if I was running a Coaxial (spdif), which provide digital bit transfer, how would I know its producing in analog mode?
    => When i changed the input source on the Logitech Z5500D LCD controller to Digital/Coaxial it tells me "no digital input source" Any Clue?

    Thanks again

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    [Can you specifically tell me which Mixer you were referring to where there are options for digital HD SPDIF?
    => When i changed the input source on the Logitech Z5500D LCD controller to Digital/Coaxial it tells me "no digital input source" Any Clue?

    Thanks again [/quote]


    I cant tell you ecxatly where in the option menu on the FX cuz i dont run with SupremeFX right now, but im pretty sure that i saw that option. But the Mixer im referring to is the on Realtek sound driver, the "speaker icon" lower right bottom


    There you have these different output settings im referring to BUT as mentioned, i tried that aswell when on the R2E and i couldent get it to work either with optical cable. I worked alot with EZdrum, FL, Steinbergs etc music editing programs when i worked as a sessiondrummer, and there were the same interferrence between the diff. output/input settings and soundcards ect, so had to switch back and forth ON the Realtek settings menu. Meaning that it was crucial to set the right output on the application (steinberg) to Realtek device (HD) when editing, otherwice no sound, wich then meant that when back in windows i had no sound (dunno if that is of any help..)? So, if your Logitech tells you No Digital input source, its probably do to either the settings mentioned or the device output (PowerDVD, GFX Card, Motherboard SPDIF connection etc) settings and configurations you can choose from. I would try staying on Digital on the Logitech, then try all settings existing both on the FX and in Realtek's

    I wish i could help more..:$

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    Hi Ben,

    Thanks for all your help and explanation i will go back and give it a try then report back
    *fingers crossed

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