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    Is that AMD dragon platform as great as I hear it is? Does it rape my system?

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    To answer your question simply, no.

    The AMD dragon platform is fast, don't get me wrong, but the Core i7 is much faster + you get the triple channel DDR3 instead of only dual channel. The overclocking is a little easier as well on the AM3 systems, as I am currently finding out. Also, since AMD now owns ATI, they design the CPU, chipsets, and Graphics cards to work in harmony, which is also a benefit.

    Even with all of this being said, the Core i7 920 still stomps the crap out of the AMD platform, with either nVidia or ATI cards.

    For those that can't afford an i7 system, then AMD is the way to go. They are still very fast, just not quite as fast as Intel. Give them a few more years to get the kinks worked out of switching over to DDR3, and to hopefully find a way to implement something that mimics Intel's Hyperthreading technology, and AMD may very well come out on top, and stay there for quite some time. But again, this is going to take several years, if it does indead happen.
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    Alright cuz theres a guy that keeps telling me how his AMD Dragon bull**** kicks the **** outta my system. He says he has a single core P4 processor on it and it still rapes my system. NO ****ING WAY.

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    Well, you can tell he is full of himself just by what he told you.

    If he says that he is running a single core P4 (i.e. INTEL Pentium 4) processor running in an AMD AM3 motherboard, I'd like to see it, lol. Intel chips won't run on an AMD system, and vise versa. Tell him to learn more about his hardware if he is going to spout off at the mouth to you.

    Now, I am not going to say that the AMD's aren't BADA$$, because they do hold a higher overclocking record (by quite a bit) over the Core i7's. But the performance isn't as good. The AM3 Phenom II X4 955 has hit 6.5GHz, whereas the Intel Core i7 965 (and upcoming 975) have maxed out at 5.8 GHz. So AMD is definitely on the right track.
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    Well, he signed back on and starts going on about how his P4 can run way more processes at once than my Core i7. These are the kind of people I wish I could find and murder.

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    a i7 can do far more per clock cycle than a p4. about 4-5 times more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by criss_glitch666 View Post
    Well, he signed back on and starts going on about how his P4 can run way more processes at once than my Core i7. These are the kind of people I wish I could find and murder.
    You wish you could find and murder him because he said his pentium4 beats out AM3 cpus? :rolleyes:

    Quote Originally Posted by intel4ever View Post
    a i7 can do far more per clock cycle than a p4. about 4-5 times more?
    I wouldn't doubt it; P4s were simply terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shattered.likeness View Post
    Even with all of this being said, the Core i7 920 still stomps the crap out of the AMD platform, with either nVidia or ATI cards.
    Isn't that a little harsh?

    For gaming AMD is Not far behind i7 920, if at all.

    http://www.techspot.com/review/162-a...55/page11.html





    Even the guys at Anandtech said that although benchmarks may show the i7 outperforming AMD in 3 and 4GPU situations, the AMD platform was just smoother over all (higher min FPS / no stutter)

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?b=50

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    check out the 3dmark vantage scores of the i7 920 and 955 BE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intel4ever View Post
    check out the 3dmark vantage scores of the i7 920 and 955 BE.
    3DMark06 and 3DMark Vantage

    http://www.impulsegamer.com/hardware...processor.html

    3DMark06 is still one of the definitive benchmarking programs available due the variety of systems that it has been run on since its concept. 3DMark is a computer benchmarking tool created and developed by Futuremark Corporation to determine the performance of a computer's 3D graphic rendering and CPU workload processing capabilities. Needless to say, the result of the Phenom II was extremely impressive, just beating the Core i7 920.

    3DMark06 CPU Test
    AMD Phenom II X4 955

    (4901)
    Intel Core i7 920
    (4830)
    AMD Phenom X4 9950
    (4099)



    3DMark Vantage CPU Test

    Intel Core i7 920
    (17191)
    AMD Phenom II X4 955
    (13201)
    AMD Phenom X4 9950
    (8410)



    3DMark Vantage CPU+GPU Test
    AMD Phenom II X4 955
    (11401)
    Intel Core i7 920
    (12001)
    AMD Phenom X4 9950
    (8991)



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    3dmark vantage
    4ghz i7=24.000 marks
    4ghz 955=14,000 marks
    http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19
    I know 4ghz i7 is 24,000 marks cause I own one.

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    I dunno what to make of X4 955 vs Core i7 gaming performance. It goes back and forth in these benchmarks. Interesting considering X4 955 wasn't meant to compete with i7.
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    The graphics card matters most in a game. a phenom or i7 will deliver similar framrates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intel4ever View Post
    The graphics card matters most in a game. a phenom or i7 will deliver similar framrates.
    True.

    This is where AMD really exceeds. In price performance ratio.. Two 4890s vs GTX 295. You would think the 4890s would cost more. Put Two GTX 295 in SLI cost wise is like four 4890s.

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    the crappy part about ati is that if you think a single 4870x2 is too slow then you don't get the option to put in another 4870x2 for quad fire as crossfire scales terribly when you get over two gpus in most games. sli is different.

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    ati is great if you have a limited budget though.

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