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    hey guys...
    ive recently been approached with an offer for a vid card upgrade and i was wondering what yall think. here are my options...

    1) go with a gtx295 coop edition for free
    2) go with 2 original gtx 295's for $400
    3) stay with my two gtx 280's

    from what ive researched my gtx 280s are great cards but are now obsolete. they run with tonnes of voltage and get hot. either choice 1 or 2 will require less power so thats good. i could get the 295 coop and get a second one later.

    here are some interesting ideas for you... thinking about going with the coop

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=298212

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    gtx295 coop edition for free? if you can get it while keeping your 280's do that.
    if-not I'd say keep your 280 sli so then you have no downtime. and if you resell your parts later you will most likely get more for the two 280's than the one 295.

    your currently sitting on a lot of computer power for which task do you require more?

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    hahah thanks bud yeah a free 295 coop would be great but thats not the case in my world as i have rent to pay. let me rephrase...
    1) trade in my 280s for a 295 coop
    2) trade in my 280's plus extra 400 bucks for 2x gtx 295s
    3) stay with the 280s and watercool those suckers

    guess the big question is whether or not one 295 coop = two gtx280s. i can always get another 295 later
    or for 400 bucks more the two 295 running cooler and with less power will be worth it.
    cheers

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    I would probably lean towards the coop...
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    Jay, what are you gonna do with it? and continue using 24" monitor?

    My thinking is....2x 295>2x 280>1x 295 for performance and for heat too and to finalise the decision check ebay for current averages on 280's...it is getting toward the end of the time envelope for getting a reasonable price for your 280's I guess but confirming this should make the decision for you even if it means running the single 295 for a while.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnCbg...1&feature=fvwp

    Nvidia gtx 295.





    Nvidia gtx 295 Co-op





    Im sure you are looking for my honest answer Jayfunk... and I will try my best to give that. Please note I have not actually had either card personally. So I may not have the best or most professional opinion about the cards. so please bare with me.

    Out of the two cards. I lean towards the gtx 295 co-op because there used to be an assumption of higher performance with dual pcb boards... this is no longer true. The performance is nearly the same. Both dump heat into your case, though, both cards have water cooling blocks available... up to this moment, I was un-aware of that.

    Both are monster power consumers, but both will perform! I think its mainly comes down to what you feel would be best for you. I could go either way I guess now that I know the dual and single pcb gtx 295's have water cooling blocks available.

    If you are going to keep it air cooled, I like the fact the gtx295 co-op has the fan centered between both gpus, giving both gpus the same cfm of air for cooling.

    What is the difference in cost? warranty? re-sale value? maintenance or repairs?
    Why dont you consider single gpu cards? Ive read dual gpu cards are a little more difficult to stabilize with high overclocks... also, you are cutting the bandwidth in half for each gpu...
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    hey guys and thanks so much for all the great input. i plan on keeping my 24 inch monitor. i just use it for gaming and watching movies and photoshop. i just thought since it was free hey why not. however now it looks like to really see a difference i would have to either get two coops or watercool the one and overclock it as the 280s sli seem to be comparable. ah well still up in the air we'll see how it goes.

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    ok progress report!
    it looks like its a go, buddy wants to buy my 280's. so now im going to give it a day or two just to be sure and see what all my buds on the net have to say.
    so any more input would be grrrreat.
    thanks so much again
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    Sell the 280's and get a 5970

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    The Single PCB 295 does not have HDMI capability

    The Single PCB 295 does not support software voltage tuning due to cheaper power hardware (DrMOS vs Volterra)

    1 x 295 compared to 2 x 280 =
    Clock for clock, they are identical in every way.
    the big difference here is memory... and Ive read people wish they went for higher memory...

    IDK, I feel when it comes time to purchase hardware for myself, I will be going with ATI. but that only depends on how well Fermi does against the 5870 in sli, or the 5970....

    Im looking for the best dx11 gaming card. and thats where im going to start.
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    thanks bud ... so are you saying go with the gtx 280 coop? im a little confused still trying to figure out how all these cards work.
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    I wouldnt go with nvidia in this case. but thats my personal opinion. and Im again, un-experienced. I would sell the 2 x 280's and go with dx11 supported card. you have win 7 ultimate. a kick ass mobo, memory, ect... get that bottleneck out of there, and put some money back into your pocket.

    sell 280's, but 5870 or 5970... and be done with it. or wait for Fermi... either way, you are above the game.

    for now you are looking to trade power consuming cards for power consuming cards... with out much gain in performance, even if you put down another 400 bucks for the other 295... its still dx 10...

    sell and upgrade... to the next gaming platform. but thats me. cause you are spending the moeny, you should be up grading here... not spending more money for the same dx 10....

    hardware is pretty tip top shape from what Ive read. Meaning. the bottleneck is in drivers and software, games ect... the cards themselfs are more than capable... so you dont need 4 cards. nor do you need to have cards that consume alot of power. its not NEEDED nor does it provide a gain.


    please correct me if im wrong, or give bad advice, politely. I do not want to steer you into the wrong direction. im biased so... just correct me if I make statements that are incorrect.


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    http://blogs.amd.com/play/2009/09/09...hat-to-expect/

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    hey thanks for al the great ideas... ive heard the opposite though. that the game producers make the games just a tad AHEAD of the technology so it forces the consumer to always have to keep buying the better cards to play the game. maybe thats old news and with all the new advanced technology nowadays maybe the tables have turned. anyway bud thanks again very interesting idea with the directx 11 definately something to consider having games run smoother, more detailed, and faster. maybe that ati 5970 is the way to go. this dilemma is getting bigger and bigger.. aarrgg

    ps... ahh now i understand. my programmer friend told me that the new games are very inneficient and could be programmed alot better. so it is a bottleneck but one created on purpose. i have no doubt that they have everything planned out for the next 5 years and its just a matter of when and how to release things to make the best profits. nice.
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    I think its best to keep what you have, till you know what you want to upgrade to, and when its right to sell your stuff.... so keep up the research, and never give up. those ati cards are sooooooooooo mega sweet looking.... lol I can only imagine the latest gear and the workings of it. one day maybe... one day.

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    i think youre right about that directx 11. thats the way to go and yeah oooo that 5970 has killer performance! i think thats the one doood! theres a great canadian site i found and they have them in stock!!
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    i was wonderin... i have a 36 inch samsung lcd tv with hdmi. could i use that as my monitor with the 5970..... yikes this is getting out of control heheheheh

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