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    With all the great games coming out this year I thought it was time to stop upgrading the 5 year old P4 (skt478) and start fresh, not to say that the old rig was slow sheís still sh$*hot! (not actually hot, running very cool... etc)

    Here the speck:

    Lian-Li PC-V1200B+
    Custom built water cooling system (my first ever) with plans to build custom designed TEC based internal water-chillier as later project.
    Apogge GT Extreme
    120mm & 240mm rads
    Liang D5 pump
    1/2" DangerDen tubing
    Cool Plex 10 reservoir
    Single 120mm radbox for use with 240mm rad externally
    Intel Extreme QX6700
    ASUS Striker Extreme
    2x 2GB Kingston HyperX PC2-6400C4 (4GB total, upgrading to 8GB soon)
    1kw OCZ power supply
    EVGA 8800GTX KO ACS3 650/2000MHz
    2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB Raid 0
    Samsung 18x18 DVD+/-RW SATA
    Vista Home Premium 64bit

    Stuff being moved over from old PC.
    275GB Maxtor DimondMax 10 SATA2 16Mb Cache for storage.
    Creative X-Fi Fatality

    Future upgrades.
    Gigabyte GC-Ramdisks IRam x2 in Raid 0. (page file/temp game loader)
    Custom TEC water chillier.
    AquaPc water cooling controller and peripherals.
    Second 8800GTX

    All parts ordered apart from Asus Striker and Raptors.
    Will try and post pictures during build.

    First problem - no windowed side panel available for Lian Li V1200, and previous attempts to cut pc cases have resulted in catastrophe.

    Second problem - Ebuyer "misplaced" my 120mm Radiator


    Let me know what you think of the build. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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    when is this build taken place and completion?

    Will you benifit with 4GB or 8GB of mem with Windows Vista? I know you will have a problem with XP.

    Vista 64bits? Are all they drives & games available?

    1Kw PSU are good with the specs at the moment but I think you will need to upgrade it when you installed a second 8800gtx and TEC setup. These two are power hurngers.

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    That sounds like a belting PC, I can't see any problems which could bottleneck the PC, it looks wonderful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    Will you benifit with 4GB or 8GB of mem with Windows Vista? I know you will have a problem with XP.
    You would benefit more with 8GB, but 4GB is perfectly fine to run Windows Vista on.

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    looks like one hell of a rig. Personally I'd stick with 2GB until you start hearing of the enthusiast crowds moving to 4GB, this will probably happen when those next-gen DX10 games come along, i really would stick with 2GB until then, unless money really isn't a concern of course!

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    The big rig is primarily for the new games that will be arriving this year:

    Supreme Commander
    Armed Assault
    S.t.a.l.k.e.r.
    Hellgate London
    Spore
    Bioshock
    UT2007
    HL2: Ep2
    Overlord
    Crysis
    Alan Wake
    Quake Wars
    Assassin's Creed
    "and lots more"

    Vista 64bit can make ample usage of 4+GB of RAM, however I will also be installing XP 32bit just in case, and for some older game compatibility if required (XP 32bit WILL struggle to use anything over 3.5GB of RAM). However one massive advantage of high density RAM is that not only to you get nice timings as standard but memory communication is quicker anyway within the RAM itself because its so high density.
    Also being quad core, this machine will really need a gig of RAM per core for optimal performance, otherwise their is a chance multiple cores might share a single gig of RAM and we can't have that, no point bogging down a new £615 processor (I'm being slightly sarcastic sorry).


    I defiantly will upgrade to 8GB, but not for a good year, plenty of time for 2GB sticks to come down in price.

    The build will near completion in about 2.5 to 3 weeks time, however I'm going to be adding bits after this point and making design revisions.

    The TEC I intend to use will probably only be 170w max, so nothing to crazy, however it will be powered by an additional 250w PSU that I will probably mount on top of the machine once completed.

    To be honest, I'm expecting the 1Kw PSU I have already purchased to last a good while even with quad core and eventually two 8800GTXs. I'm expecting a typical energy usage of about 700w (not-overclocked) from the parts I have already ordered.

    Overclocking will probably come later after I have had chance to run in the components for a little while. Thatís when I will start on the TEC-chiller:cool:.

    Hope thatís everything.




    If any ones thinking of undertaking a similar project or needs info on parts/suppliers I would be happy to assist.
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    wow that looks like its going to be one hell of a rig . a true thing of beauty. how much does it cost for those 2gig sticks of ram anyway?

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    They come as a 4GB kit (HyperX) from Kingston, the kit is £352 and available on pre-order from overclockers.co.uk.

    Here be the link: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-021-KS
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    Some pics of the build. Its about 1/2 done.








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    Wow, that is a huge case, but its looking fantastic!

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    This does sound like one hell of a gaming machine. How much is it costing you? Also I am new to the world so what is HL:Ep2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, and Armed Assault?

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    Stalker was just released, only what, 3 years late....? go check it out

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    The case is designed to take a server motherboard, which gives me room to mount the reservoir on the remaining bit of the motherboard tray.

    The build is supposed to be about £2600 in parts however I think I might have spent a little over that. Thankfully I donít have to pay labour rates .

    The pictures donít do it justice, the colours on the photos are off, the project looks allot better in R/L.

    @ Minty, I used to be a big gamer about 4 years back, but there was a sharp decline in games for the PC with "new" ideas behind them. Plus I became very busy with working.
    This machine is a testament to the new games coming out (I have always believed that if you don't have allot of time to enjoy your games then make them as enjoyable as possible when you do play, for me this has always meant getting the best hardware available).
    I would definitely go do some research on the games I listed earlier, if it werenít for those games I would have never built this machine. :cool:
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    Well since finishing the initial build of this project (getting hardware running and software installed) I can tell you the following:

    1* The water cooling is magic, QX6700 running idle at 11 degrees centigrade with an ambient room temperature of 23 degrees. goes up to 15 degrees on full load.

    2* The OCZ ProXStream 1000W PSU is very-very noisy! I'm intending to return it for a Coolermaster Real Power Pro 850W (6x12v Rails) and use an FSP Booster X3 (~300W) when upgrading to SLI. Review here.

    3* The components I ended up with were different from the originally ordered specification I listed earlier (no thanks to overclockers.co.uk). Unfortunately following hardware has caused me no end of problems;
    BFG 8800GTX OC2 626/2000
    G.Skill 2X2GB PC2-6400 5-5-5-15
    I get the same problem in Vista Home Premium 64 and XP Home 32, but basically the machine is incapable of maintaining game play in any game. It randomly crashes anywhere from 10 minuets to three hours of play time in either OS, and depending upon Nvidia GFX driver used, will either C2D (then you need to restart PC) or BSOD, nv4_disp error.
    I have tried EVERY THING to resolve this issue but nothing works. So RMA'd the RAM and GFXc back to overclockers.co.uk on Thursday May 3rd.

    4* overclockers.co.uk are a bunch of monkeys, they did not listen to what I told them, they did not test the RAM correctly (and now say they are sending it back to me), neither did they follow my instructions. On the other hand, specialtech.co.uk have been very helpful so far with this issue (lets hope things remain that way).

    So basically overclockers are sending the blasted RAM that dose not work back to me because "they" cannot find any problems with it, so I'm going to have to fork out another £200+ to buy some more RAM because they refuse to take the RAM I have already purchased back, saying that its against company policy.

    I'm upset...:mad:

    I could go on, but if you read to the end of this post then you did well already.
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    CPU: Intel Q6600 2.4ghz Stepping 7-Revision B3@3.2 Prime Stable
    M/B: Asus P5K Premium Wi-Fi-Ap
    RAM: 2 x 2 Gig OCZ Reaper 800 MHZ
    GPU: Evga 8800 GTS 640 MB
    • Wayne's Full Spec's
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      • Coolermaster Cosmos 1000
      • PSU:
      • Hiper Type R730 Watts modular 2
      • Cooling:
      • Swiftech H20 120 CPU WaterCooler
      • Sound:
      • Realtek onboard
      • OS:
      • Dual boot Windows vista 32 and 64 bit
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    Very nice build sorry your having problems with it, its a dam shame when youve spent all that money. What do you think to the striker extreme its the same board i have and i had a few issues to start with but they seemed to iron out with a few bios updates. Now id say its a dam good board but wish id opted for the commando now its a lot cheaper with hardly any difference. Hope you get your system running top notch itl eat them games up.

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    CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.2GHz
    M/B: ASUS (model unknown)
    RAM: 1 GB DDR2 PC2 4200
    GPU: Back to integrated (will upgrade to x1950 pro or 8600 soon)
    • Minty's Full Spec's
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      • HP a1612n
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      • Unknown
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      • Stock fans
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      • XP Media Center 2005
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      • MB has 1 PCI xpress x16, AM2 socket,
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    Oh my god that is such a great gaming rig and you can't play games.
    That really sucks.

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