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    Hey guys glad to be back to this forum

    I have a problem I need some oppinions on.


    Lately all my parts for my temporary build have arrived.

    I sold my UD5 and GTX 295 Quad CF and got the Gigabyte X58A-OC and 6950 TWFIII CF instead with the money.

    The 6950īs are still only on order so I could cancel them if the outcome of this thread wonīt be pleasing^^

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    We all know that the Twin Frozr III cools more efficient than the reference design of the 6950 that is a fact.
    The problem with this card isnīt the cooling but rather the exhaust of it.

    Unlike the ref design the TWFIII exhausts 80% of the hot air into case instead out of the case.
    If only one card is installed that wonīt be much of a problem since the hot air can simply be exhausted by the case.

    But with two TWFIII in SLI that can be an issue because the top card will suck up all the hot air from the lower card before it can be exhausted by the case fans.

    I consulted a MSI tech about this problem and he said that there were to things highly important to ensure good cooling of the TWFIII even in CF.

    1.)A lot of spacing between the cards.
    2.)Good exhaust capability of the case.

    In my case I qualify for both points because I have the GA X58A-OC board with huge spacing between the slots the cards have triple slot spacing between them.
    Also my Little Devil V8 has 4x120mm top + 1x140mm as exhaust + 1x140mm intake.

    (GPU watercooling when Kepler arrives that is why I am using TWFIII^^)


    So the conditions should be fine but I am still afraid ....because of this :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-TH7...layer_embedded

    The guy in this video has other conditions of course:

    1.)He is using Tri SLI with absolutely no spacing between the cards.
    2.)He has 580īs which need much more Watts therefore produce more heat.

    Still his statements frighten me a little.

    I hope you can help me with this decision

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    I wouldn't worry about it

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    I've tested the MSI 6950 TF3 and it is an awesome card. The problem is not the card, it's the motherboard. Any P67 mobo, for example, has extra space between the top 2 PCI-E slots to allow for better airflow. However, most X58 mobos don't have that extra space, so dual cards can have issues with heat.

    My advice? Ditch the X58 and go with P67 or Z68. Better mobos, better CPUs, better cooling for your dual graphics cards.

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    Be smart and go with the GTX 560 Ti

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    The card isn't the problem, it's the mobo. But.......if your X58 board has extra space then you'll be ok. And if you really want to be sure, then just strap on a fan or two on the side to force more air into the fans and ghetto rig it with zip ties. But the TF3 temps are so bloody low to begin with, I cannot see how it would be a problem. If the TF3 can't cut it, then no card can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    The card isn't the problem, it's the mobo. But.......if your X58 board has extra space then you'll be ok. And if you really want to be sure, then just strap on a fan or two on the side to force more air into the fans and ghetto rig it with zip ties. But the TF3 temps are so bloody low to begin with, I cannot see how it would be a problem. If the TF3 can't cut it, then no card can.
    The Gigabyte X58A-OC has extremely well spacing.

    The cards would be installed on slot 1 and slot 3 = triple slot spacing between the cards ...so that is not an issue.

    But the fact that the upper card WILL suck in the hot air from the lower one before it can hit the exhaust fan is scaring me.
    And the youtube vids donīt help actually

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    1.)6950 2 GB CF without a question or doubt better buy than 560 SLI please stay on topic
    2.)I am glad you got back the cool avatar! smoking babies ..meh^^
    3.)You will get 1.17Vcore + 4.3 GHZ on my 950 prime 95 screens shortly ...my new X58A-OC is smothering the Vcore and stable as a rock

    Maybe you also have something to say about the TWFIII?


    I have the Little Devil V8 ....and wanted to save money on not watercooling the gpuīs which is why I am about to get TWFIII 6950 CF.
    I got 550€ gpu money and that is the best buy.

    So I can use my 4x120mm in the top as exhaust and 1x140mm rear as exhaust but only 1x140mm as intake which I am worrying ..will be too little

    I just hope the cards wonīt heat up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
    The Gigabyte X58A-OC has extremely well spacing.

    The cards would be installed on slot 1 and slot 3 = triple slot spacing between the cards ...so that is not an issue.

    But the fact that the upper card WILL suck in the hot air from the lower one before it can hit the exhaust fan is scaring me.
    And the youtube vids donīt help actually

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    1.)6950 2 GB CF without a question or doubt better buy than 560 SLI please stay on topic
    2.)I am glad you got back the cool avatar! smoking babies ..meh^^
    3.)You will get 1.17Vcore + 4.3 GHZ on my 950 prime 95 screens shortly ...my new X58A-OC is smothering the Vcore and stable as a rock

    Maybe you also have something to say about the TWFIII?


    I have the Little Devil V8 ....and wanted to save money on not watercooling the gpuīs which is why I am about to get TWFIII 6950 CF.
    I got 550€ gpu money and that is the best buy.

    So I can use my 4x120mm in the top as exhaust and 1x140mm rear as exhaust but only 1x140mm as intake which I am worrying ..will be too little

    I just hope the cards wonīt heat up.
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    Yeah the board is nice


    So you guys thinkI shouldnīt worry about the TWFIII CF getting too hot?

    I mean I should have good spacing between the cards on my OC board because the space between the slots is really huge.

    And airflowwise....I donīt know I am running Bitfenix Spectre fans ....1x140mm rear exhaust + 4x120mm top exhaust + 1x140mm front intake.
    All spinning at 800-1000RPM.

    You think that is enough?

    Here some pictures of the case in the OP:
    http://www.overclock.net/computer-ca...tion-help.html

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    Yeah you will be fine, nice chassis bye the way. What did he charge for it?

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    I got the LDV8 10 expansion slots + Silver CoilxD for 419€

    I sold my MM Extended Ascension for it and I am glad about my decision.
    The production values are just phenomenal.
    With it I got the Koolance 370, 2x RX480 rads with some Gentle Typhoons, the X58-OC , (TWFIII 6950 CF not sure yet^^), some 140 & 120mm all white Bitfenix Spectre fans and lighting, cable sleeving,and also a LN2 kit for the X58-OC because I will get a 990x shortly which I wanna do some records with:P^^

    But back to topic :
    My exhaust will be 1x140mm rear exhaust + 4x120mm top exhaust + 1x140mm intake
    Here a pic for better understanding:





    Is there a TWFIII expert here maybe?
    The fans will only spin at 1000 RPM and I am worriyng if it will be too little CFM.
    But the overall fan config is alright for the TWFIII right?

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    Like I said you should be fine, I'm not a fan of using negitive air flow in a case personally, I prefer positive air flow so if it were me setting it up I would flip all of the fans on the top to intakes so more cold air is being blow in rather than having all the air sucked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    Like I said you should be fine, I'm not a fan of using negitive air flow in a case personally, I prefer positive air flow so if it were me setting it up I would flip all of the fans on the top to intakes so more cold air is being blow in rather than having all the air sucked out.
    Yes and that would be completely right with a normal gpu.
    But the TWFIII exhausts 80% of the hot air into they case rather than outside.
    That is the reason why it is important to move that hot air out of the case.

    I will switch to Kepler anyway the TWFIII are only a temporary measure to save money.
    When Kepler arrives I will do a full SLI loop + CPU loop

    My 950 is hitting 4.5 GHZ with 1.20 Vcore with the X58-OC ...I am so excited to push those results into Dr. Deathīs face who did not believe me

    Thanks for the participation guys


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    He's a busy guy but still around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    He's a busy guy but still around.
    And what has been going on with you guys?

    Gonna switch to Ivy+Kepler too?

    Rumors of a prototype being tested have been confirmed by several techs I heard.
    It really should be released in September-November

    I intentionally resided on X58 and skipped SB because it has still to many compatibility problems and I personally donīt enjoy overclocking it.

    Ivy will be the innovation

    Gonna do any upgrades soon?

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