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    Default R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    so i saw that the R9 390X is just a rebranded 290X. what do you think about that?

    Graphics card manufacturer XFX has accidentally confirmed on their website that the upcoming AMD Radeon R9 390X is, in fact, a rebranded version of the R9 290X, which launched towards the end of 2013.On their product page for the XFX Radeon R9 290X Double Dissipation Edition, towards the bottom of the page the company has posted a picture of a box that clearly shows R9 390X branding. The card itself comes with two large fans atop a cooler that includes seven heat pipes, plus the usual selection of display outputs: two DVI, one HDMI, and one DisplayPort.
    While specifications for the card aren't shown in the picture, the inclusion of 8 GB of GDDR5 memory indicates this card won't use AMD's upcoming Fiji GPU. Cards that do end up featuring a Fiji GPU will be limited to 4 GB of high-bandwidth (HBM) memory, as AMD has confirmed previously.
    Other rumors have indicated that the R9 390X will be a slightly faster version of the R9 290X, while cards that feature AMD's new Fiji GPU will fall under "Radeon Fury" branding. The rest of the R9 300 series will reportedly be rebrands as well, which will disappoint AMD fans wanting to see a wide variety of new cards hit the market.
    As for the Radeon Fury, all reports indicate that AMD will launch this next-generation flagship card at an E3 event on June 16th.
    Source: XFX accidentally confirms AMD Radeon R9 390X is a rebrand - TechSpot
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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    I think it is normal. Nvidia does the same thing. Cycle 1= Equals new Tech. Cycle 2= Updates and tweaks to Last tech Cycle 3 Is New tech or Half of the series is new other half can be re brands. not sure why anyone is really surprised by this.
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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    so the only thing new is the compatibility of DX12?
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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    I think it is normal. Nvidia does the same thing. Cycle 1= Equals new Tech. Cycle 2= Updates and tweaks to Last tech Cycle 3 Is New tech or Half of the series is new other half can be re brands. not sure why anyone is really surprised by this.
    It's only surprising in that AMD has stated that the 390X would be new tech, while the rest of the line would be rebranding. Little doubt that the unexpected early release of the 980 Ti was based on this.

    This does not bode well for AMD, which in turn does not bode well for the consumer. They are already so far behind, if they don't start getting something out soon, nVidia is going to be the only game in town....and we all know what happens when there is no competition.....

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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    AMD need to step it up and get moving.
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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeBlack View Post
    AMD need to step it up and get moving.
    I think that Fury and Fury XT might be the step-up that they need. Enthusiasts will be on them like stink on a turd if they're as good as the rumors suggest.

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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    I think that Fury and Fury XT might be the step-up that they need. Enthusiasts will be on them like stink on a turd if they're as good as the rumors suggest.
    Personally, I see the 300W TDP and need for a CLC as really telling signs - and they aren't good ones. It would appear that AMD is back to the wall again, needing to eek out every possible smidge of performance and push the card to the brink just to keep up....while the nVidia cards aren't breaking a sweat and have good OC headroom, not to mention most of the partner cards able to run zero fan modes - could you imagine trying that with a R9?

    This is the same AMD approach we have seen the last couple of gens. It's not working, and I am not sure AMD has the resources to get it back on track without help fro an outside source. It is becoming more and more apparent that they are in desperate need of an injection of financial help to right the ship. This is wholly reminiscent of the OCZ situation - great concepts without the funds to fully develop them, and throwing them into the market only out of desperation to get cash back in. If Toshiba's cash could save OCZ and weather the backlash from a horrific situation, I would have to imagine the same could be done for AMD. I really hope it happens - the market needs AMD, and frankly I miss being on team red.

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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    So the way it's working is, Fury X and Fury are the only cards with totally new architecture. The 390X should be slightly better than a rebrand in that the Hawaii core is supposedly optimized (now called grenada). I think the reviews will tell us that's true if we actually see some performance increase. Other than that, the memory comes factory clocked at 6000 mhz and defaults at 8 gb capacity. The original was 5000 mhz and 4 gb.

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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    I think that Fury and Fury XT might be the step-up that they need. Enthusiasts will be on them like stink on a turd if they're as good as the rumors suggest.

    Well....it would seem we have no worries regarding turds....talk about an anti-climactic launch. The AMD guys are gonna have heart failure when the comparisons to OC 980 Ti start coming out.

    A couple of the reviews do make a really good case for just how good the factory OC GTX 970s are, though. They are really a pretty amazing price/performance GPU.

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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    It's certainly not as good as I was hoping for, but once there are some price adjustments, I may buy a few of them anyways. (way down the road)

    I recently got a GTX-980 and I like it enough to buy another one like it for SLI.
    I also have an R9-290X that needs a brother for some crossfire goodness.

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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    It's certainly not as good as I was hoping for, but once there are some price adjustments, I may buy a few of them anyways. (way down the road)

    I recently got a GTX-980 and I like it enough to buy another one like it for SLI.
    I also have an R9-290X that needs a brother for some crossfire goodness.

    Hmmm....nVidia was the one announcing coming price adjustments yesterday..... Mark my words, nVidia is about to use AMD's financial weakness and this flop to burn them like a cane field in a high wind. Don't be surprised if Intel jumps on the bandwagon and turns this into one of the ugliest corporate decimations you will ever see. AMD royally messing this up again is a killer for them, and nVidia is going to use the depth of their pockets to skew the market so badly that if they do recover, it may be in a very skeletal state.

    HardOCP was the only review I could find stating the obvious - the Fury X is not competitive with the 980 Ti, it is competitive with the GTX 980 in terms of performance. I know....."but, but, but, but the Fury X almost catches the reference 980 Ti out of the box"....which is is great, excepting the fact that no one has gotten more than a 100MHz OC on the Fury X (remember I was saying that the CLC was a bad sign that this was going to be happening? AMD isn't a very unpredictable company these days.), while Maxwells OC like beasts and can increase performance ~20% with little effort.

    So, while it may look like the Fury X is taking a small performance loss to the 980 Ti, it is actually much, much larger. You can bet this is going to be exploited to the hilt, along with the 390X essentially not matching the GTX 970 in similar ways, but costing $100 more.

    And through this, nVidia and (possibly) Intel will come out looking like the good guys when they drop all of their prices "to benefit the consumer", when they are actually putting any lost profits under the heading "Nails for AMD's Coffin" on their balance sheet.

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    Found this today. 390x isn't a rebrand, or new, just a revision essentially.

    AMD: The Radeon R9 390 and 390X Aren't Rebadges - New Power Management uArch, Higher Bandwidth and 8GB vRAM

    Kinda makes me want two sapphire 2 r9 390 nitros to compare to my 2 r9 290 vapor-x to see how they do, but there's no way a minor upgrade like that would be worth it. Hopefully my next cards will be HBM when that starts making it to more platforms.

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    I own a video card PowerColor PCS + AXR9 290X and a Dell2314h monitor with resolution 1080 .
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    Should I have reason to envy of equivalent video card in the new series considering that use this resolution ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by froge_2003 View Post
    I own a video card PowerColor PCS + AXR9 290X and a Dell2314h monitor with resolution 1080 .
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    Should I have reason to envy of equivalent video card in the new series considering that use this resolution ??
    Not at all, unless you are experiencing some noticeable performance issues with a few of the more demanding game titles around these days and that current R9 290X not being able to deliver the frame rates and ultra high settings to your expectations.
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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    Quote Originally Posted by froge_2003 View Post
    I own a video card PowerColor PCS + AXR9 290X and a Dell2314h monitor with resolution 1080 .
    PowerColor PCS+ AXR9 290X 4GBD5-PPDHE Radeon R9 290X 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Newegg.com
    Should I have reason to envy of equivalent video card in the new series considering that use this resolution ??
    You absolutely have no reason to be envious, the technical and performance improvements of R9 3XX in comparison with R9 2XX are not so big.

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    Default Re: R9 390X a rebranded R9 290X?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    You absolutely have no reason to be envious, the technical and performance improvements of R9 3XX in comparison with R9 2XX are not so big.
    From what I know, AMD brings drivers in the lifespan of video cards, which bring performance gains gradually, sometimes by 20% from launch. I think that they can stop developing drivers for my board, and focuses on the new generation: is normal, if they want to sell the new videocards.

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