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    Default FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    First things first: the Fury chip is NOT an overclocker's dream. I've held out hope for so long, but the chip just doesn't push well. With that out of the way, the HBM can push pretty well. First, it's nice that Sapphire made a custom PCB for the card with the Nitro Version. Their latest TriXX software actually unlocks the voltage control so you can legitimately tweak the clocks. Finally, Hardware Asylum did a good review on the card. Here's a link to the overclocking page, but this is the Fury card to own, probably above all of them. If the price cuts fair well, this could be a great $500 value, as much as you can call anything a value at $500 that is.

    Sapphire Nitro Radeon R9 Fury Video Card Review - Overclocking the R9 Fury | Hardware Asylum
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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Wow. 89 MHz. No one could ever OC a GTX 980 to blow this thing away. I wonder why we are seeing yet another review without a comparison to an OC'd nVidia comparable. Could it be that AMD has intimated that doing so would result in no more samples?

    Sorry, the Fury series are still a huge disappointment. AMD's publicized manipulation of reviews doesn't help, and neither does 89 MHz.

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    Wow. 89 MHz. No one could ever OC a GTX 980 to blow this thing away. I wonder why we are seeing yet another review without a comparison to an OC'd nVidia comparable. Could it be that AMD has intimated that doing so would result in no more samples?

    Sorry, the Fury series are still a huge disappointment. AMD's publicized manipulation of reviews doesn't help, and neither does 89 MHz.
    I'm confident AMD isn't manipulating the samples, or just about any company for that matter. The more I'm getting to deal with individuals from companies, the more I realize that making hardware is a hard game and the worst manipulation I see is on an advertising basis. Also, the 980 in reference to the above review is an overclocked EVGA one, not the standard reference sample. I'm sure if Hardware Asylum pushed it to the limit, it could trade a couple more blows, but the HBM overclock came through pretty nicely in their tests and would probably put it back to the status quo of the review. With HBM2 around the corner, it's exciting to think that the future of memory overclocking could be much better than what GDDR overclocking is.
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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    You mean the EVGA GTX 980 Classified that can be OC'd to do this? - Review: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Classified - Graphics - HEXUS.net - Page 10

    They certainly don't run the GTX 980 with a 1560 MHz boost clock in that Fury review....and it would get pretty ugly if they did. They didn't compare apples to apples. They took everything they could get out of a Fury and compared it to an out of the box GTX 980 that has a ton of OC headroom.

    And it seems you forgot about this event - Things go from Bad to Worse for Reviews of AMD Radeon Fury X - eTeknix

    Yes, HBM2 is around the corner. Yes, it is exciting for some. And, yes, nVidia will be using it in Pascal.....so there goes the only supposed advantage AMD had. Which is odd, since the same people saying it's an advantage are the same ones that were/are screaming that 4GB isn't enough memory......

    I have been a die hard Mets fan my entire life. I have watched them win world series, but have endured far more 90+ loss seasons. When they lose 90+ games, I don't like them any less, but I am also not going to try to rationalize that they are as good as a team en route to a 110 win season. Know what I mean?

    I'm not being negative, just realistic.

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    I did look through those numbers though and the 7862 extreme score on the overclocked Fury far outpaces the 6979 score on the overclocked 980. That means the Fury is pulling a 13% lead on the overclocked EVGA. That gap should lessen at 1080p, but the Fury isn't a bad buy unless someone wants to overclock for the joy of overclocking.
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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    I did look through those numbers though and the 7862 extreme score on the overclocked Fury far outpaces the 6979 score on the overclocked 980. That means the Fury is pulling a 13% lead on the overclocked EVGA. That gap should lessen at 1080p, but the Fury isn't a bad buy unless someone wants to overclock for the joy of overclocking.
    I suppose that is great if you sit around running synthetic benchmarks rather than playing games.....if that is your intended purpose, then I guess the Fury isn't a bad buy.

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    The 780Ti Classified can outperform the Fury and that is a previous generation video card. You cant compare Nvidia and AMD, its not fair, Nvidia has a big advantage.

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Agreed, but one can always hope for more.

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    I suppose that is great if you sit around running synthetic benchmarks rather than playing games.....if that is your intended purpose, then I guess the Fury isn't a bad buy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    Wow. 89 MHz. No one could ever OC a GTX 980 to blow this thing away. I wonder why we are seeing yet another review without a comparison to an OC'd nVidia comparable. Could it be that AMD has intimated that doing so would result in no more samples?

    Sorry, the Fury series are still a huge disappointment. AMD's publicized manipulation of reviews doesn't help, and neither does 89 MHz.
    How out of date is this information?

    Fact is, you cannot OC a 980 to blow this away. Not anymore. Informed techies know that the R9 Fury Nitro performs like a GTX 1070 now, thanks to driver updates, and Windows 10 + DX12 benefits to AMD GCN. SO, based on the most up to date info, your sarcastic statement is actually correct.

    Here's a good Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4qHjM32d3k

    And since DX12 is the current standard for gaming and future releases will support it, pointing to DX11 for comparison is clinging to the past. Thinking ahead, you cannot deny that GCN is more advanced and provides better performance when paired with proper API support. In fact, most AMD cards perform better over time thanks to optimizations. Here's another tidbit to deflate the NVidia fanboys when comparing the 1060 to the RX 480:

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...ed-review.html


    Also worth mentioning, my system with the Fury uses 30w less power than with my GTX 970 under normal gaming loads. AND the Fury runs cooler and quieter than the my 970 as well. So based on my firsthand experience and observations, I can tell you that the nVidia hype about it being 'hotter and more power hungry' is bias fed misinformation. Full load, maybe; but not under normal gaming loads.

    For more info on my 970 for comparison, here's a link to the detailed info on my custom GTX 970 BIOS for the Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming:

    Mad Dog Fargo's Gigabyte G1 Gaming BIOS - Hynix RAM - FINAL


    So, in short, if you have windows 10 and would like a GTX 1070 for LESS, buy an R9 Fury Nitro. I got mine on sale from Newegg for $260, around $180 less than the 1070.
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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Quote Originally Posted by maddogfargo View Post
    How out of date is this information?

    Fact is, you cannot OC a 980 to blow this away. Not anymore. Informed techies know that the R9 Fury Nitro performs like a GTX 1070 now, thanks to driver updates, and Windows 10 + DX12 benefits to AMD GCN. SO, based on the most up to date info, your sarcastic statement is actually correct.

    Here's a good Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4qHjM32d3k

    And since DX12 is the current standard for gaming and future releases will support it, pointing to DX11 for comparison is clinging to the past. Thinking ahead, you cannot deny that GCN is more advanced and provides better performance when paired with proper API support. In fact, most AMD cards perform better over time thanks to optimizations. Here's another tidbit to deflate the NVidia fanboys when comparing the 1060 to the RX 480:

    GTX 1060 vs. RX 480 - An Updated Review


    Also worth mentioning, my system with the Fury uses 30w less power than with my GTX 970 under normal gaming loads. AND the Fury runs cooler and quieter than the my 970 as well. So based on my firsthand experience and observations, I can tell you that the nVidia hype about it being 'hotter and more power hungry' is bias fed misinformation. Full load, maybe; but not under normal gaming loads.

    For more info on my 970 for comparison, here's a link to the detailed info on my custom GTX 970 BIOS for the Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming:

    Mad Dog Fargo's Gigabyte G1 Gaming BIOS - Hynix RAM - FINAL


    So, in short, if you have windows 10 and would like a GTX 1070 for LESS, buy an R9 Fury Nitro. I got mine on sale from Newegg for $260, around $180 less than the 1070.
    Actually, I wasn't being sarcastic. It took a while because of the new Voltage regulators for software to allow some legit overclocking tests when the card first released. Also, while the review impressed me, what impressed me more was the decision to record at 720p at 60 FPS. I might need to try that out on my channel!
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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    Actually, I wasn't being sarcastic. It took a while because of the new Voltage regulators for software to allow some legit overclocking tests when the card first released. Also, while the review impressed me, what impressed me more was the decision to record at 720p at 60 FPS. I might need to try that out on my channel!
    I know, I was replying to the quotes made by the other 2 posters.


    In all seriousness though, I was surprised by the results with Mantle/Vulkan/DX12. People bash AMD too much. They are great innovators, occasionally making a bad call, but much of what we have today is because of things they have tried and the good competition they give to Intel and NVidia now and then.

    When I tried to find threads about overclocking the Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro, I could not find any good info. :/ Oh well, gonna hafta figure it out on my own. Maybe I will post results/article when I'm done.

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Quote Originally Posted by maddogfargo View Post
    I know, I was replying to the quotes made by the other 2 posters.


    In all seriousness though, I was surprised by the results with Mantle/Vulkan/DX12. People bash AMD too much. They are great innovators, occasionally making a bad call, but much of what we have today is because of things they have tried and the good competition they give to Intel and NVidia now and then.

    When I tried to find threads about overclocking the Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro, I could not find any good info. :/ Oh well, gonna hafta figure it out on my own. Maybe I will post results/article when I'm done.
    Lol, that's a big reason I joined this site about 4 years ago. Most responses are serious from people who genuinely love computer hardware. I have a hard time fanboying any one company because I still have a ton of respect for what Intel and Nvidia do, but AMD Crossfire and their budget friendly nature is why I ended up being an AMD based system builder.

    Definitely post some results if you get some good overclocking on that Fury. I'd love to see it!
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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Got it to 1100 on stock volts and custom fan curve pretty easily. After 3 runs of Valley on Ultra it barely hits 60-62c. Fans were around 1400RPM. Sapphire's cooler is impressive to say the least.

    Going to try 1150, maybe even 1200. But I think I will need to install TRIXX instead of MSI AB. Afterburner doesn't seem to support memory overclocking or voltages over 1.250v GPU core, unless I'm missing something. Maybe the unofficial overclocking setting needs to be on. I will research it another time.

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    OK, since you asked...


    Core:

    The MAX stable core I could get was around 1160 with +72mv.
    I was able to get 1150 stable at +48mv.
    1150 makes more sense to me for long term usage as power draw and temperature were much better.
    I was not able to get it stable at 1165+ on ANY voltage, even with high fan settings. It just won't do it.


    MEMORY

    This was the most impressive part. Buildzoid's video on the VRM for this card mentions the extra caps on the memory VRM contributing to HBM stability. He was right on the money.
    I was able to get 667 HBM stable without any issues or artifacts.
    I do not know if I can try pushing HBM higher, but Sapphire Trixx goes higher so maybe I can?
    There doesn't seem to be any real point going higher on the HBM Memory since the bandwidth is already pretty insane and I don't see this contributing as much to better overall performance. It may help with stuttering.


    Tested on Windows 8.1 x64 with FX 9590 @ 5.0GHz on and 16GB DDR3 2133 RAM.
    Used 3+ loops of Unigine Valley on Ultra with VSync off @ 1080p.
    FPS was going from 55-130 depending on the complexity of the scene.
    GPU usage was varying from 80-98% while testing with averages in the 95%+ range.

    Looks like my FX 9590 @ 5.0GHz is able to fully load the card, but Unigine is a single threaded test so I did run into a few times where GPU load dropped off around 10% waiting for CPU work. But it wasn't bad at all actually and really nice to see these two parts work well together. Multithreaded games that will use 4+ cores will have no trouble working out the Fury, even on an AMD CPU.

    Fallout 4 loves it and even has lower CPU load, maybe due to differences between my old NVidia drivers -vs- the newer AMD drivers. But basically, lets me use MSI AB for recording 1080p @ 60 FPS with just 13-15% additional CPU load instead of Shadowplay or ReLive capture. I've had game stability issues with GPU capture. So far, going back to MSI AB, this card performs so well the CPU and GPU are both happier and I have had 0 driver crashes in Fallout 4 over the past 2 weeks. Lovely.


    Can't wait to try Windows 10 + DX 12

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    Default Re: FINALLY! Someone did some legit Fury overclocking

    Quote Originally Posted by maddogfargo View Post
    OK, since you asked...


    Core:

    The MAX stable core I could get was around 1160 with +72mv.
    I was able to get 1150 stable at +48mv.
    1150 makes more sense to me for long term usage as power draw and temperature were much better.
    I was not able to get it stable at 1165+ on ANY voltage, even with high fan settings. It just won't do it.


    MEMORY

    This was the most impressive part. Buildzoid's video on the VRM for this card mentions the extra caps on the memory VRM contributing to HBM stability. He was right on the money.
    I was able to get 667 HBM stable without any issues or artifacts.
    I do not know if I can try pushing HBM higher, but Sapphire Trixx goes higher so maybe I can?
    There doesn't seem to be any real point going higher on the HBM Memory since the bandwidth is already pretty insane and I don't see this contributing as much to better overall performance. It may help with stuttering.


    Tested on Windows 8.1 x64 with FX 9590 @ 5.0GHz on and 16GB DDR3 2133 RAM.
    Used 3+ loops of Unigine Valley on Ultra with VSync off @ 1080p.
    FPS was going from 55-130 depending on the complexity of the scene.
    GPU usage was varying from 80-98% while testing with averages in the 95%+ range.

    Looks like my FX 9590 @ 5.0GHz is able to fully load the card, but Unigine is a single threaded test so I did run into a few times where GPU load dropped off around 10% waiting for CPU work. But it wasn't bad at all actually and really nice to see these two parts work well together. Multithreaded games that will use 4+ cores will have no trouble working out the Fury, even on an AMD CPU.

    Fallout 4 loves it and even has lower CPU load, maybe due to differences between my old NVidia drivers -vs- the newer AMD drivers. But basically, lets me use MSI AB for recording 1080p @ 60 FPS with just 13-15% additional CPU load instead of Shadowplay or ReLive capture. I've had game stability issues with GPU capture. So far, going back to MSI AB, this card performs so well the CPU and GPU are both happier and I have had 0 driver crashes in Fallout 4 over the past 2 weeks. Lovely.


    Can't wait to try Windows 10 + DX 12
    It's not Maxwell/Pascal levels of overclocking, but those are some nice gains there! Thanks for sharing!!!
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