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    Ok, my dreams of getting a 7800GS+ are out of reach, Mainley because im not going to spend $600AUD on an agp system.

    My rig does everything i want it to very well, exept for the gaming. Thats why im in the market for a midrange apg card. I will pay around $250AUD.

    Currently ive been looking at a X1600pro which fits in my price range. I may also consider a 7600GS buti need to see some benchmarks first.

    if i get the X1600pro what brand should i get and will it OC well.
    Id also like to point out that im not upgrading to pcie until i really need to
    So anyway. Any one got any ideas
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    havent heard too many good things about the x1600, and dont know the 7600. with that money i'd find a good x800 or x850, those would be neat

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    Yeh good point. Just read the Guru 3D forum and they say that the X1600 performs the same as a 6800. And the X850 PE is way infront of them both. Even though its an older card.

    So cancel out the X1600pro. Prob get X850XT PE
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    Shopbot.com.au says there like $700AUD. I could get a X1800XT for that.

    So the PE is out of the picture.
    Maybe find a XT for $350AUD if im lucky.
    The only bad thing is that it only has 12 pipelines
    Man i feel so weird researching such an old card
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    Ok im lookimg at the HIS X850XT IceQ II Turbo VIVO 256MB AGP
    But there are a few things i want to know
    1. Is HIS a good brand or are there better ones that deliver higher FPS for this card
    2. Is the Turbo edition of this card any different from the non turbo edition. I know that the Turbo comes with some OC software but is there any physical difference between these two cards.
    3. Has any Aussie got any idea how much this costs. Because all the shopbot carp is old.


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    HIS is a well know brand over here and is sometimes preferred because of there funky coolers. I wouldn't worry about brands when it comes to ATI cards, all of them come from ATI, no one produces there own PCB's for ATI and there support is similar.

    As for the "Turbo", it comes with a core speed of 540 and memory clock of 1.18GHz which i think means its clocked to PE speeds (?). If you can find it for a decent price it should be a great card, though i fear prices will be high for the cards you're looking at simply because its AGP and demand is still there, so the prices are not coming down to anywhere near reasonable.

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    those HIS iceq coolers are really impressive, like the arctic cooling products for "older" cards

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    My friend reckons that because this card dosent have shader model 3 and some other new card features that i wont be able to play new games. Is this true?
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    yup, true, only the X1000 series have SM3.0 but this doesnt mean you wont see players heads in some games or anything
    the shader model 3 may have better performance and some extra features, but you have to remeber game developers always try to bring the products to the widest range of PC owners (dont think its because they are such nice guys but for the money > )
    since you dont want to spend big $ on highend cards i'd still say X850 beats the hell out of the X1600. and you can always check out nvidia products, but i dont know much about them

    so sm3 isnt the most important thing here

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    Yeh i dont really know that much about Nvidia AGP cards either.
    The only ones id consider are a 7600.

    As i said before i was hoping to get a Gainward 7800GS+ but its out of my price range

    And can anyone please tell me why i shouldent buy this card or any other solution that dosent involve getting pci-e
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    Sorry peoples but changed my mind

    I am looking at a 6800Ultra. I know that the X850XT beats it in most tests but this card should last longer because it supports SM3. And ive seen some benchmarks were as the game gets newer this card slowly overtakes the X850.

    So what you guys reckon because im really confused.
    Keeping in mind that i want a long term card.

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    hmmm long term, AGP, sm3, low $. these words just dont cope with eachother in my book.
    what i would do is get a new pci-e mobo, because AGP is old technology and making cards for this platform costs more, and i wouldnt call the remaining cards "future proof", also you have more options with pci-e. but this would bring the problem of getting a new cpu because you wont find s478 mobos (for ur current prescott cpu) with pci-e, so i guess this option is out of the question.
    i really dont know why i wrote down so much s*it, i must be high, i dont know how much hardware costs at the place you live so i dont know what would be the best for you, but in the end its up to you what you buy

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    LOL you must be high mate

    I have a northwood not a prescott and i have already said im not upgrading to pci-e

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    yes all seem clear now, post was unhelpful, still you cant stay on old things forever

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    im alos thinkin of egtting rid of my gfx5700 le card for a better agp card , can anyone tell what they think of this , gd card not good and price wise thanks all much appreciated

    http://www.savastore.com/productinfo...07&rstrat=3160

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    Ok after a bit more thinking im back on the idea of a 7800GS but this time i can get one alot cheaper. Like $200 AUD cheaper (which is alot).
    The gainward was so expensive cause it was a 7900, so i have moved on to either an XFX 7800 or a Leadtek. The default core is 375MHZ but XFX are selling a 440MHz one. Now is that Oced or is it just a faster core they put in. Here is a link to both cards.

    http://www.leadtek.com/3d_graphic/winfast_a7800_gstdh_1.html

    http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?seriesId=144767&productId= 144813

    Ol and Th3rmaltake i cant really offer you much advice as im in the same position as you. But the X1600 aint a great gaming card.
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