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    i m planning to buy a quad core processor, which graphic card should i consider nVidia 280 or GeFroce 9800 GX2, 9800 gtx or 4870, 4870X2. whats the difference(perfomance wise) between 9800 gtx and 9800 gx2, 4870 and 4870 X2(i am new to this forum!!). which motherboard should i buy nVidia 780 or 790SLI or an ASUS. one please suggest a nice build.

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    Welcome to Pure Overclock!!!

    The answer depends on a few things, we need a bit more info:

    -what is your budget?
    -do you care about ATI vs Nvidia?
    -what resolution is your monitor?
    -how often do you upgrade (how long will this system have to last)?

    There are some implications for recommendations that we'll need that info in order to help you. Thanks!

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    Well a quick list of performances of those cards would be:
    1.4870x2
    2.GTX280
    3.9800GX2
    4.4870
    5.9800gtx

    for a board based on nvidia and SLIing I would recommend the EVGA 790i FTW,
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188028
    it just came out and its a revised board for $300 on newegg, cheaper then the reference board. thats if you go with nvidia,

    if you go with ATI graphic cards I would recommend the Asus Rampage Extreme motherboard.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131334
    those two are the best in overclocking ability and stability.

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    LOL I was thinking there might be some budget considerations, but if you want pure power, then kaganader makes great recommendations right there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    LOL I was thinking there might be some budget considerations, but if you want pure power, then kaganader makes great recommendations right there
    Yeah Skyguy is correct i think price could affect yr decisions i was always leaning towards 4870x2 but there is a IT fair going on in where i live (Singapore) and they are selling the GTX280 for something like USD$423 vs USD$550 thats $180 sing dollars for me!

    Now i am most likely going for a GTX280 instead with that sorta savings i get
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    Also I forgot to mention the 9800GTX+, its a revised version of the original 9800GTX which they shrunk the Die from 65nm to 55nm, thus it creates less heat, takes less voltage, and can overclock better and higher then its bigger die predecessor.

    A good budget build on a nvidia based computer would be:
    EVGA 790i FTW $300
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188028
    2 9800GTX+ SLIed $190-200 each
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127374
    or 2 9800GX2 which sell for around 270 each and would be damn worth it for the money
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133217
    OCZ ram at 1600MHz, this can be picked up at around $170-$180

    Ati build would be:
    Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6 $310
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128330
    HD4870 for $270
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814129113
    Ram at 1600Mhz at Cas 7 $140-$170
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231142
    or
    XMP Profile ram from OCZ $180
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227342

    Just a few ideas on 2 builds you can do if your on a budget but still getting quite some performances.

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    thank you guys for answering my questions. my budget is around $2000-$3000 so can u guys suggest me a good pc build on which i can play high end games on full graphic detail?
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    2 i dont care whether its ati or nVidia i just want great performance(but i do like the design of ATI 4870 card its awesome). But i did some research on ati and nvidia and i think 280>4870X2>9800gX2. can someone please guide me on this in detail...
    3 i have to buy a monitor...
    4 that depends on what the game needs...

    If i want to play high end games the should i go for core 2 Quad (latest one) or core 2 duo(latest one) [i cant afford an extreme processor with this kind of budget so i wont ask about it]so that i can save some money

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    Quote Originally Posted by sid View Post
    thank you guys for answering my questions. my budget is around $2000-$3000 so can u guys suggest me a good pc build on which i can play high end games on full graphic detail?
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    2 i dont care whether its ati or nVidia i just want great performance(but i do like the design of ATI 4870 card its awesome). But i did some research on ati and nvidia and i think 280>4870X2>9800gX2. can someone please guide me on this in detail...
    3 i have to buy a monitor...
    4 that depends on what the game needs...

    If i want to play high end games the should i go for core 2 Quad (latest one) or core 2 duo(latest one) [i cant afford an extreme processor with this kind of budget so i wont ask about it]so that i can save some money
    dude i would suggest 2 systems u can consider...$2000-$3000 is this in USD or ???

    BTW ATI's R700 4870x2 2GB DDR5 is the Fastest Graphics Card available right now and it spanks the GTX280 1GB and 9800GX2

    Getting a pair of 4870 and running them in CrossFire also produces equal performance numbers to a single 4870x2 ....so u can decide how u would like to go about it...buy a pair of 4870 and occupy both slots ... or buy a single 4870x2 and leave the other slot available for a 2nd 4870x2 in future for Quad Cross Fire

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    Asus Ramage x48 Extreme/formula or Maximus Formula 2 (P45) Motherboard
    cpu: Q9450 or QX9650 if no expenses spared
    rams: Crucial, OCZ, Mushkins or Corsair Dominator 2x2gbs PC8500 modules - DDR3 if you would like to future proof your system?
    Video card: Single 4870x2 First or 2x 4870 in CrossFire

    nVidia SLI System
    XFX 780i or 790i SLI Motherboard
    cpu: Q9450
    rams: Crucial, OCZ, Mushkins or Corsair Dominator 2x2gbs PC8500 modules - DDR3 if you would like to future proof your system?
    Video card: 2x GTX260 in SLI
    PSU: 1kw Antec or Enermax Galaxy 850w or 1kw units many other good brands out there depending on what the store carries?

    Also consider what size monitor you are getting if you are going for 19" or 22" then dont bother...with those recommendations i suggest you get 24" and above

    You might wanna look around first...but those ATI 4870s are very very well sought after right now...even i am considering upgrading to a pair of these babies
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    yes the 4870's are amazing cards i would recomend you go with ati on this build as they are makeing the better product this time around. the 4870 X2 seems to be a slightly better preformer than 2 4870's in most instances so i would say go for that card then you also have room for a future upgrade to a 4870 or another 4870 X2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith View Post
    yes the 4870's are amazing cards i would recomend you go with ati on this build as they are makeing the better product this time around. the 4870 X2 seems to be a slightly better preformer than 2 4870's in most instances so i would say go for that card then you also have room for a future upgrade to a 4870 or another 4870 X2.
    its a better performer due to the increase memory for each chip,

    2gigs for the 4870x2 so the gpu chip has 1gig each
    and the 4870 has 512mb.

    hence the free AA with the X2 model and the slight performances over 2 4870 CF.

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    which is the best motherboard for 4870X2 card?

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    If you really wanna push your system......ASUS X38 Maximus Formula or ASUS X48 Rampage

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    go for the x48 rampage its 300$ and will allow you to do any overclocking you want. mind you, you will need to go the ddr3 route.
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    Just picked up a 4870x2 2Gb Card from the PC Fair



    Installed the card in my system...but was having some problems installing Catalyst 8.8 and 8.7 my system kept freezing when i installed the WDM video Card driver

    Only able to install the driver properly thru the CD Provided, contacted AMD Support and they suggested to use the Drivers provided on the installation CD as they were newer than catalyst 8.8
    http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...&enterthread=y

    Any1 had similar problems?

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    Need a mini-review on that one bullydog.......you got the time?
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    Newer than 8.8's??!?!?! Seriously? Wow.

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