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    Hey guys I have two Palit 4870x2 in crossfire and have some problems that I don't know whats causing it ( I say the other 4870x2 I put in ) and I don't know how to fix it.

    1st one I'm having is that when I put in the second 4870x2, there is no video feed from any of the four DVI slots till I'm logged into windows. Now when there was only one I got video feed right at the Bios post. now I see a black screen till I'm logged into windows. I can't do any overclocking at alll now.....

    I haven't tried taking it out since I'm supposed to be asleep so I'm not cranky at work but oh well haha.

    2nd problem, I don't know if this is a problem but what is 2 4870x2 supposed to get in the 3dmark testing? in 3dmark06 I got 19,893. I forgot what I got with just one but is this a little low for having two of them? and yes Crossfire is enable in the CCC.

    Gonna get to sleep now but will come back on in the morning before work.

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    I had the first problem before, and the only way I could fix it is by using a DVI to VGA adapter.

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    ACK, maybe you need small nuclear reactor to power those things???

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    It somehow corrected itself out dunno how it did. in crysis it gets worse frames then when it was just one 4870x2. Guess it doesn't work well with multi GPUs. other games I notice a 20-50fps jump matters on the games tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaganader View Post
    It somehow corrected itself out dunno how it did. in crysis it gets worse frames then when it was just one 4870x2. Guess it doesn't work well with multi GPUs. other games I notice a 20-50fps jump matters on the games tho.
    Thats ATI for you, next time spend a little less and get a NVIDIA gaming gpu instead of a graphic design gpu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazd View Post
    Thats ATI for you, next time spend a little less and get a NVIDIA gaming gpu instead of a graphic design gpu.
    What? The 4870x2 is THE gaming gpu. Crysis crossfire just blows.

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    when you read the box and manual pc games will generally recommend an NVIDA gpu over an ATI, ATI is great and do have to best out right now but i wouldnt buy an ATI gpu for purposes of gaming. if i was you i wouldve got 2 280's and SLi'd them which still would be more than you need right now, just one GTX280 would solve your problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazd View Post
    when you read the box and manual pc games will generally recommend an NVIDA gpu over an ATI, ATI is great and do have to best out right now but i wouldnt buy an ATI gpu for purposes of gaming. if i was you i wouldve got 2 280's and SLi'd them which still would be more than you need right now, just one GTX280 would solve your problems.

    That is because the game is engineered to work better with an Nvidia chipset, thus when I multicore with crysis it renders it horribly thus getting lower frames. when playing CoD4 or CoD world at war, my frame rate is through the roof on it, in intense battles I'm getting like 60fps with AA, antriscopic, everything maxxed, at 1920x1200 resolution. my friend's rig with 2 GTX 280 overclocked don't even produce what mine does in CoD. ( mines overclocked to 880mhz/3800mhz core/mem)
    Games are engineered differently, they all use different engines, some use physx some don't. just because it doesn't do well on one game doesn't mean its not worth the money nor would it be this bad on all games out there. In crysis Warhead, it performed soo much better, getting frames averaging around 60fps. in heated battles getting aroun 40-45fps.

    if you want to talk about graphic design chipsets then take a look at these here.

    Ati workstation gpu
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814195055

    Nvidia workstation GPU
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133248

    Workstation GPU and gaming GPU are architect completely different, there opposite poles. gaming one are more for the massive fload of sprites and texture that is being thrown at it, while workstation are more engineered for rendering of large models and detail to the nano of correctness. basically programs like Autocad 3d. Maya, Boris, Solidworks, Blend etc, sure maybe the gaming graphic cards could do this too but as exact and precise as that of a workstation gpu engineered for this work. The margin of error would be greatly higher with a gaming gpu then a workstation gpu.
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    its not one game its most games ATi fails on, and the reason y u need two 4870x2's is unnecessary, maybe you should try pulling one out and then see what you get, you'll prolly get close to the same with two 4870x2's,

    when you use two graphics cards at once with crossfire or SLi your just asking for problems

    and you cant say that ur buddies 280's arnt as good as ur two 4870x2's because for one they are on two different computers, you cant compare that like that, maybe if u installed them on ur comp u would see they are close to the same, and too right now, and even in the future u never need two gpu's, personally that is stupid and a waste of money because in most cases you will be able to upgrade to a better card cheaper and have less problems than trying to be the big kid on the block with crossfire or SLi just so u can say u have it, but if your looking to spend $1000 on a graphics card that in two months will be out of date then go ahead and waste your money, u'll only be on top for a few months and then you'll go out and waste your money on something else stupid that will only last two months.

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    on which board you tried those HD's??? coz in specs you have board with Nvidia chipset.... Or did you tried it on (oh please dont fail again) rampage extreme??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
    on which board you tried those HD's??? coz in specs you have board with Nvidia chipset.... Or did you tried it on (oh please dont fail again) rampage extreme??
    this was done on the OMGBBQ FFTW (fail for the win) board..... Rampage Extreme, since then I have sold one of my 4870x2 and gotten a EVGA 790i 8 digital PWM board. even still my one 4870x2 outperforms my friend's 2 gtx 280 ON THE SAME BOARD!

    I love nvidia but I will stick with my ati for the time being as it dominates all games except a few that are engineered towards nvidia chipset grx cards.
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    Well guys i seem to have some problems of my own with 2 4870x2's - i am getting massive stuttering right down to 5fps in GRID, Left4Dead,Crysis,Supreme Commander, and D mark Vantage i don't know what it is - i have tried all drivers form 8.9 - 9.1 memory bandwidth @ 30.1Gb/s CPU @ 3.8 i have run out of ideas - is there something in the bios i have missed voltage wise on ram or CPU (still not used to the i7) although this happened on the rampage formula as well so please help guys 2 systems 2 identical problems

    The cards run fine on their own in single card set up no glitching or stuttering
    This is a hobby that is starting to get expensive

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    Why everbody gets problem with this crossfire of X2's ??? I think that ATI did not create drives that could well administrate thos video cards....we are talking about 4 GPU'S THAT NEED TO WORK TOGETHER!!!!

    I mean, isn't too complicate to gerenciate all this power..?? And so, isn't ATI seing this???? Why the hell they just do not create good drives!??

    Damm, I feel good now...

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    Hopefully, I will be able to comment & add to this in a positive way, when i complete my current rig - maybe this weekend, but may have to wait for the 2 EK waterblocks until next weekend to try it.

    I am curious to see how the MB with X58 works - as well as how it mates with the i7 CPU.

    I went with 1200 watt PSU as the 2 cards can draw 330 watts each when flying.
    The i7 CPU can use 200 (or more) easily - that's all added to the rest of the rig's wattage draw.

    Also these cards run way to hot if not watercooled. 80-85C easily under full load.
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    Definitely let us know how that goes!

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    Well - I got the 2 EK blocks this week, (cripes $160 in Duty & Broker charges at the border :mad: !!!!) but I am holding off now until the X58 EK Kit for the Asus p6T-DX & the EK CPU block arrive
    - don't like the MB & CPU temps at all (40-60).

    Probably will put all the WC components together next week. Won't do just the 2 cards first, as the MB & the rest will have to come out for this. Might as well do it in 1 shot.

    I'll report back when done.

    BTW - ran 3DMark Vantage - 18.700 with the current "raw" setup & CPU at 2.63Ghz - will start tweaking when the blocks are all on & etc etc.

    No issues with the 2 cards in Crossfire - easy hookup - no probs with display or anything else sofar.
    Last edited by Dougofthenorth; 15-05-2009 at 07:39.

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