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    Hey all!

    I just recently built a custom PC, this was my first build as well. Everything has gone very well. I actually received a DOA - PSU (Ultra X3 1000w) and like a clumsy head had 4 too many standoffs and fried the 1st - 2 MOBO's, but received the 3rd (god bless EVGA and their Customer service) got everything up and running...

    I have wanted to Overclock, but too sketchy for me right now, and I am loving the PC as is... so everything is bone stock... but it is a beast as is.

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    My issue is this.....

    My PC is acting up. When playing Call of Duty 4 and 5.... even playing Left 4 Dead after only about 15 minutes, the PC has been freezing to solid gray screens and sometimes all black. It locks up, and I have to hit the RESTART button. Also when doing design work in Photoshop, i will drag my image and the screen flickers as I drag it, but only when dragging things - even some applications?! (especially the EVGA Precision App- the application one for overclockin the card/monitoring temps)

    ALTHOUGH-

    Sometimes, I can play for a couple hours before it happens (maybe like 3 outta 5 times or so)... and sometimes it doesn't happen. I have tried having Precision set the Card fan speed @ AUTO (which causes the freezes/crashes faster and almost everytime) And I have manually set the fans to between 70-100 speed at times, where it seems the freezes don't occur as much or even at all - but still are happening... I have also tried a couple different driver versions, and happens with all of the drivers....

    Tried Driver -
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    about to try the 182.06.....

    The cards are not overheating - temps idle at 43 with 40% fans and stay around 50 - 60 when under load while playing.

    I ran the OCCT GPU test for around 10 minutes and the cards in SLI got steady 115-120fps and heated up to around 80 at the end (with fans at 100)....

    Also - i ran 3DMark 06 (only free version) got through the 1st GPU test in the hangar with the gunfire fine - with fps around 80-100 steady. I got to the 2nd GPU Test @ the Firefly Forrest and after like 30 seconds, the pc froze black screen and I had to reboot.

    I have not tried to diagnose each card - one at a time. (to see if one of them is causing the freeze)

    I am at a loss for words now tho... I'm not 100% pissed, b/c i can still use the PC and play games and such, but it is damn irritating. That is certain. I was hoping someone would be able to assist me on what to do, or how to fix this.

    THANK YOU!
    -Ian
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    My first recommendation would be to try re-seating your graphics cards.

    If that does not seem to alleviate your problems, then I would suggest for you to do as you mentioned yourself, try each card one at a time.

    I'll leave it at that for starters, and hope this helps
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    First of all, welcome to PUREOC!

    Second, impressive built

    Third, you're not overclocking so that is not the issue here. Well, both Crossfire or SLI have their own issues with dual GPU setup but I think it's the PSU. Not any brand/PSU are make equally.

    Can you borrow a PSU from a friend to test those card from a different PSU?
    I'm sure you won't find the problem when you when you test one card at the time but I can be wrong too. You might have one defected card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    First of all, welcome to PUREOC!

    Second, impressive built

    Third, you're not overclocking so that is not the issue here. Well, both Crossfire or SLI have their own issues with dual GPU setup but I think it's the PSU. Not any brand/PSU are make equally.

    Can you borrow a PSU from a friend to test those card from a different PSU?
    I'm sure you won't find the problem when you when you test one card at the time but I can be wrong too. You might have one defected card.

    This I believe is the issue. i have found a lot of people and posts around EVGA forums with people stating that the Ultra X3 1000watt is very unreliable after 500watt and a TON of people running the X3 using only 1 - GTX280 or higher having the EXACT same issues.

    I think the PSU aint got the juice im needing :mad:

    I am gonna go ahead and sell this one (either to a friend or anyone looking) and buy the Corsair 1000watt Modular... this one here @ newegg (has a $20 rebate right now)

    Anyways - I'll get this sorted and touch back... in the mean time - I am going to try each card at once, but that wont help much (because that takes a whole lot of strain OFF the PSU..... the problem is BOTH 260's grasping all the power)

    Thank you for the suggestions, I will be in touch here!

    -Ian :cool:

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29|Stubs View Post
    This I believe is the issue. i have found a lot of people and posts around EVGA forums with people stating that the Ultra X3 1000watt is very unreliable after 500watt and a TON of people running the X3 using only 1 - GTX280 or higher having the EXACT same issues.

    I think the PSU aint got the juice im needing :mad:

    I am gonna go ahead and sell this one (either to a friend or anyone looking) and buy the Corsair 1000watt Modular... this one here @ newegg (has a $20 rebate right now)

    Anyways - I'll get this sorted and touch back... in the mean time - I am going to try each card at once, but that wont help much (because that takes a whole lot of strain OFF the PSU..... the problem is BOTH 260's grasping all the power)

    Thank you for the suggestions, I will be in touch here!

    -Ian :cool:
    Welcome to PureOC Ian!
    Great Rig u have there, sorry i was late I dont think Ultra x series are very reliable brands of PSU
    but what u have have in mind on the Corsair HX1000 PSU is definately the best choice for PSU at the moment

    Do let us know how it went with the SLI setup with the HX 1000 PSU. Once you are done with that perhaps we can start talking about overclocking yr i7

    Cheers!

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    Welcome to Pure OC, you mentioned trying diff drivers , did you run driver sweeper or some other program each time you uninstalled a driver or before installing new drivers .

    My 2nd question is, are you sure you have SLI enabled in the nvidia control panel , and did you also enable the physx driver ?

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    Since it's not the temps.........

    -just for kicks, download EVGA's Precision Tool, and downclock your 260. There's a possibility the mem/core clocks are unstable.

    -I was thinking power supply could be the culprit as well. If it's not consistent, then that's troublesome. Overheating will be consistent, drivers MAY be consistent, but power may not. If at all possible, try another power supply. Consider returning the X3 and apply a credit to another brand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Welcome to Pure OC, you mentioned trying diff drivers , did you run driver sweeper or some other program each time you uninstalled a driver or before installing new drivers .

    My 2nd question is, are you sure you have SLI enabled in the nvidia control panel , and did you also enable the physx driver ?
    Yeah, I am possitive I have SLI enabled. Yes, phsyx has been running the whole time as well.... I don't quite know what PhysX is, but it has been on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullydog
    Welcome to PureOC Ian!
    Great Rig u have there, sorry i was late I dont think Ultra x series are very reliable brands of PSU
    but what u have have in mind on the Corsair HX1000 PSU is definately the best choice for PSU at the moment

    Do let us know how it went with the SLI setup with the HX 1000 PSU. Once you are done with that perhaps we can start talking about overclocking yr i7
    Yes, I would love some help OCing this thing! I can't even use the full potential of the 1600Mhz memory I have without overclocking... (its reading 1333 right now)

    I will be back soon enough when the new PSU comes in.... right now though - I am going to test each card, one at a time...

    -Ian

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    Hey guys! Just stopping back in... I am stumped now.


    I turned PhysX OFF.... and I was able to complete the 3DMark06 Tests FULLY.... 1st time ever. I have both cards in and running in SLI. I was not happy with my scores, but right now I am not concerned with all that - just trying to get everything running proper before Overclocking.

    Resolution @ 1920x1200 and everything else default my scores were. . . .

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    7,617 (HDR/SM3.0)
    4,479 (CPU Score)

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    Is it PhysX that is causing my screen freezes/PC Issues????

    - With PhysX on - I would get the screen freeze/ turning GREY before the 1st 3D Mark 06 test even started (as it was loading it). The PC doesn't shut down, it just freezes and screen goes grey or sometimes black....

    What is PhysX???
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    What can I do? What is up now? Starting to shy away from the PSU as the issue, but could it still be the PSU? I don't wanna spend $300 on the Corsair 1000w Modular if I don't have to.

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    EDIT: I just ran the 3D Mark 06 again and it froze this 2nd try. It froze to a light blue color this time and forced me to hit the restart button....

    I am lost yet again...

    -Ian
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    physX is part of the nvidia drivers
    Have u tried to run your system on 3D mark Vantage and see what kinda scores u get?

    that kinda of scores are way too low for an i7 965EE with 2x GTX 260s

    I'm not sure if any of your cards are faulty but what i would do in yr position is to remove and run 1 card first then see how it goes with the benchmark. If it went well then remove and do the same for the 2nd card.

    download and use the latest driver from nvidia.com

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    Yea.... I am gonna do that now... I didn't buy Vantage, Only Mark 06. I have the 'just released' Nvidia drivers... the 182.06.

    I was pretty disappointed with the scores I was receiving.... I am gonna try and test the cards one at a time now.
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    With all this known, could it still be a power supply issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29|Stubs View Post
    Yea.... I am gonna do that now... I didn't buy Vantage, Only Mark 06. I have the 'just released' Nvidia drivers... the 182.06.

    I was pretty disappointed with the scores I was receiving.... I am gonna try and test the cards one at a time now.
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    With all this known, could it still be a power supply issue?

    -Ian
    Didn't you get a copy of Vantage with the motherboard driver CD ???

    It could be still be a PSU issue but you should be able to find out more when u test 1 card at the time.

    If you didnt encounter any problems testing each card individually and run into problems again when on SLI, it could quite surely be a PSU issue

    It will be good if you can borrow a 2nd PSU and power the 2 cards (GTX 260s) separately and have yr ultra x3 1000 PSU powering all the motherboard and drive. If it turns out well then it should be that Ultra PSU

    Let us know how did ur test go...

    EDIT: Do update yr systems profile so that we all can see yr specs instead of referencing back to post #1
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    1.) Whether running 1 video card or Both
    (and yes, when running just 1 card- I pulled the other card completely out of the case) -

    2.) Whether turning PhysX On or Off -

    3.) Whether the GPU fans are at 100% or (auto) -

    The Results are (as follows).....

    My PC freezes everytime when running 3D Mark 06.... @ the same place everytime also. It happens @ the Firefly Forest (GPU Test #2) after about 10 seconds into that one. It doesn't matter if I run the first 3D Mark 06 - GPU Test #1 three times before it switches to the next tests... but as soon as it finishes the 1st test, and moves to the 2nd GPU Test - 1. .. .2 . . .3. 4567.8.9 seconds annnndd... FREEZE!

    I DONO!!! Starting to really think it isn't the PSU (unless the Power Supply can't even push 1 - GTX260 core216 card?!?!)
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    Anyway - I ran a trial version of the 3D Mark Vantage with only 1 card in and this is the score i got... (link below) - HOORRRIIBLE!
    http://service.futuremark.com/home.a...&resultType=19

    3D Mark Vantage Score

    3dMark Score: P10944 3D Marks
    CPU Score: 16154
    Graphics Score: 9882 (for running 1- gtx260 Core216 SC)
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    I am losing faith here haha.... I am hesitant to jump and buy a $300 PSU if the underlying matter is something else. WHAT NOW???


    -IAN

    P.S - Tomorrow I will run the 3D Mark Vantage scores with the other card in, and then with both in. As well as with PhysX turned on/off also. (I will look into the 3D apps on the Mobo driver disk as well)

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    strange...
    but it will be good if you could borrow another nvidia video card or something? or perhaps even an ATI card?

    also slight possibility yr PSU is a total defective one ? cant even push 1 card ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullydog View Post
    strange...
    but it will be good if you could borrow another nvidia video card or something? or perhaps even an ATI card?

    also slight possibility yr PSU is a total defective one ? cant even push 1 card ?

    If it were totally defective, wouldn't it SHUT OFF or restart itself under load? Or does it mke the pc do a hard freeze?
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    I have 2 old 7600GT cards in my other PC..... i will pull those out and try to test them.


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    Yes, try to use these 7600GT and tell us what happens...But I still think that the problem is the PSU, some internal issue, don't know.... it's totally wired cause we are talking about a X3 1000W, but................Try another GOOD PSU with your entire system! And post here...

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