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    Default Nvidia Ray Tracing is Great for Gaming, IMHO CES 2019

    In My Humble Opinion I see a fair share of collective groans when Nvidia announces a proprietary feature. The RTX series of cards introduced DLSS, as well as Ray Tracing. Even though the company has been incredibly excited about the new features, many consumers and reviewers are claiming they aren’t a big deal. I get it. PhysX was meant to bring immersive gaming experiences to the action. However, I noticed some heavy gaming lag when tons of particles were flying. Why is Ray Tracing any different? For me, the key is seeing something a feature does that makes me wish I had it all along. At first, Ray Tracing seemed somewhat gimmicky. The Nvidia demo showed reflections on swords and pieces of metal armor. If you do a close up like the demo does, it looks interesting. On the other hand, how much are those tiny patches going to be noticed during game play? Then I saw all the water reflections. On top of making the water look a ton more realistic, I couldn’t help but wish I had Ray Tracing back in the days of playing World of Warcraft. https://developer.nvidia.com/rtx/raytracing That’s Ray Tracing, but DLSS? There’s Anti-Aliasing, and there’s DLSS. The former uses a trick that blurs the pixels around straight lines. It gives the appearance that a line is smooth, even though the object being rendered is jagged. The key to smooth lines isn’t making something smooth. If you put just about anything under enough magnification, it will look jagged. If the imperfections are small enough though, the eye can only see smoothness. Nvidia mentioned that they render an image at around 16,000 x 32,000 pixels. Even if that number isn’t exactly right, the image size is astronomical! After rendering an image at that size, their super computers can learn how to reproduce that image at smaller resolutions. Rather than blur the edges, DLSS is learning how to render the image right off the bat in ways that make edges look smooth. The programming involved is an impressive feat, and provides far better performance than intensive AA settings. However, the results aren’t game changing to me. I don’t mean that I don’t appreciate it a ton, but I can see how the jagged lines aren’t something that will stand out to me during actual game play. Even in my CES coverage, the best way to show the technology off was to freeze the benchmark. Should we be happy about DLSS? Absolutely! This is still a great technology that adds to the quality of the game image, and it can actually improve performance in certain ways. It’s not on the level of Ray Tracing, but the fact that the improvement isn’t at the cost of performance is great. DLSS: What Does It Mean for Game Developers? The RTX 2060 Announced The best news is that Ray Tracing and DLSS are much more affordable with the RTX 2060. Not only does it support the latest features, but it has great FPS performance as well. Even though gaming titles are bound to take a while to catch up, these are some of the best features Nvidia has released. Ray Tracing does come with a performance hit, but I think smoothing out the performance over time will be worth it. DLSS is a feature that doesn’t seem to hit performance. Even if the visual impact is not as noticeable to everyone, it’s still worth having. Another thing I’ve noticed is articles pointing out that Mr. Huang has been defensive about RTX tech. I feel like I understand entirely. Even though gamers want the best experience possible, we can’t translate that into nothing but raw FPS and 99th percentile. While I understand that those are very important, at some point we have to make the games look better on a raw pixel level. The more hardware companies take that mantle up, the easier it will be for game developers to make beautiful games. Even though I haven’t been thrilled about Nvidia’s proprietary features in the past, I still feel like RTX is doing a much better job than before. We still have more CES 2019 coverage on the way so come back later. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/

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    Default Re: Nvidia Ray Tracing is Great for Gaming, IMHO CES 2019

    It comes at an extremely, ridiculously high price compared to past generations of cards. They are making so many variants too and pricing them too high and it is sickening. This is why I have said no to Nvidia until pricing becomes reasonable. Just bought an AMD RX 5700 XT and plan on buying an AMD CPU. Ray tracing may be great for a small amount of games and I have supported Green Team for a long time but there is no excuse for the massive price increase for adding a feature. Also you mention it may take some time for game titles to catch up using the technology by the time that happens some of the cards now that are overpriced will be obsolete or people will have dead cards and thus be replacing them. Did I like PhysX with Nvidia when it was proprietary? Yes. I still bought Nvidia even though I should not have but I sure as heck didn't overpay like one does now. Also i regards to recent offering before the RTX series of cards there was the GTX 1080 Ti and in Canada you could get one for $1000 and now with RTX the top card is at least 1/3 more expensive than that. If they want to increase their top end card a bit that is fine but you see these cards at times up to $1500 and $2000 and it just plain ridiculous. Finally what happened to the pricing of value cards? Oh wait there is no such thing now. Nvidia can stick Ray Tracing where the sun don't shine.
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    I certainly agree that things like detailed water reflections would have been amazing playing WoW back in the day, but you have to measure the Bio X4 benefits of a lot of Nvidia prop tech against the costs, which seem to become more astronomical with every big announcement. Of course every improvement in graphics quality - whatever the measure - is a positive, but not if it makes the gameplay experience completely different for two distinct classes of gamers; those with $5000 gaming PCs and those without. The beauty of WoW is how accessible it is; how it appeals to old and young, rich and poor.
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