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    Your opinion about those two motherboards:

    ASUS RAMPAGE V EDITION 10

    https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...-V-EDITION-10/

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    X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon

    https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X99A...#hero-overview

    Personally: aside that I'm a 100% truly ASUS fan and user, I like more the MSI board.

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    Default Re: What do you think...

    it would first need to ask

    does this asus have m.2 support?

    it would also need to ask,,,how much do you need such support?

    it does see the ports for m.2 on the msi,,,but also a clear value of less pcie ports also
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    Default Re: What do you think...

    MSI would be my choice but don't let that sway you

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    Default Re: What do you think...

    Yeah, I'm partial to MSI too, but that's purely a personal bias. For me it would come down to $$$, M.2 Support, and PCI-E lanes, and to a lesser extent SATA Ports and USB 3.X ports. I'd also take a careful look a the Network Chipset, preferring Intel over Killer, and Gig-E over Wireless. Beyond that, the Monochromatic theme on the MSI just looks a bit better integrated to me, less distracting odd colors, so it would be a good board to use with whatever theme you wanted to throw in the machine.

    But....at the end of the day, that's just personal bias. Both look smexy as heck.

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    Default Re: What do you think...

    I love my MSI board but hate the killer network had lots of issues with it in the beginning, seems ok now and your right on all other points

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    Default Re: What do you think...

    First, let me just say that what I am saying may or may not be true about these two particular boards, since I have never used either, but have used several comparable Z87, Z97 and X99 boards from the two companies.

    Oh, wait....maybe first I should say "X99 Sabertooth and a good audio card is the way to go!". I just find these $600 MBs to be much ado about nothing in most cases.......

    But, when I got corresponding ASUS and MSI pieces in the aforementioned platforms, the MSI always felt like it was trying too hard to be an ASUS, right down to what they started including in their accessory kits. The MSI were all very nice boards, but as I dug into them it would seem like every component was just a tick lower in quality than the ASUS board (audio, secondary USB controller, NIC, etc). I'm not saying that the MSI had any bad components, because they didn't, they were all just slightly lower quality than the ASUS - Like the ASUS was a 10/10, while the MSI was a 9/10. I also found the ASUS BIOS to be more flexible and user friendly.

    Overall, looks and feature-wise, the MSI seems more like it wants to appeal to gamers/whateveryoucallthosepeoplewhobuildsystemsbasedstri ctlyonwhatthecomponentslooklike and does it with dragons and LEDs, while ASUS seems more like it wants to appeal to enthusiasts and does it with components.

    Just my $.02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    First, let me just say that what I am saying may or may not be true about these two particular boards, since I have never used either, but have used several comparable Z87, Z97 and X99 boards from the two companies.

    Oh, wait....maybe first I should say "X99 Sabertooth and a good audio card is the way to go!". I just find these $600 MBs to be much ado about nothing in most cases.......

    But, when I got corresponding ASUS and MSI pieces in the aforementioned platforms, the MSI always felt like it was trying too hard to be an ASUS, right down to what they started including in their accessory kits. The MSI were all very nice boards, but as I dug into them it would seem like every component was just a tick lower in quality than the ASUS board (audio, secondary USB controller, NIC, etc). I'm not saying that the MSI had any bad components, because they didn't, they were all just slightly lower quality than the ASUS - Like the ASUS was a 10/10, while the MSI was a 9/10. I also found the ASUS BIOS to be more flexible and user friendly.

    Overall, looks and feature-wise, the MSI seems more like it wants to appeal to gamers/whateveryoucallthosepeoplewhobuildsystemsbasedstri ctlyonwhatthecomponentslooklike and does it with dragons and LEDs, while ASUS seems more like it wants to appeal to enthusiasts and does it with components.

    Just my $.02.
    Thats why I love your posts buddy as your usually spot on with your comments!

    Notice I said usually! as none of us are perfect

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    Default Re: What do you think...

    Yeah, agreed. Good Post Ciarlatano! An interesting commentary on the state of the industry too. Sort of like, the recent let's all make our boards Red and Black and put armor on them, and we'll all call them "GAMING" (MSI, GIGABYTE...etc).

    You're probably right about the quality of the individual components, and if both are equal in price, I'd probably err on the side of the ASUS. But...as to the Dragons and LED's, I must point out:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    First, let me just say that what I am saying may or may not be true about these two particular boards, since I have never used either, but have used several comparable Z87, Z97 and X99 boards from the two companies.

    Oh, wait....maybe first I should say "X99 Sabertooth and a good audio card is the way to go!". I just find these $600 MBs to be much ado about nothing in most cases.......

    But, when I got corresponding ASUS and MSI pieces in the aforementioned platforms, the MSI always felt like it was trying too hard to be an ASUS, right down to what they started including in their accessory kits. The MSI were all very nice boards, but as I dug into them it would seem like every component was just a tick lower in quality than the ASUS board (audio, secondary USB controller, NIC, etc). I'm not saying that the MSI had any bad components, because they didn't, they were all just slightly lower quality than the ASUS - Like the ASUS was a 10/10, while the MSI was a 9/10. I also found the ASUS BIOS to be more flexible and user friendly.

    Overall, looks and feature-wise, the MSI seems more like it wants to appeal to gamers/whateveryoucallthosepeoplewhobuildsystemsbasedstri ctlyonwhatthecomponentslooklike and does it with dragons and LEDs, while ASUS seems more like it wants to appeal to enthusiasts and does it with components.

    Just my $.02.
    Yes, you absolutely right about ASUS quality, since I start using it (before I use Soyo boards till 2000), I've notice the quality of ASUS components and I've never had a single issue with any of my boards except of RIVE (RAM controller died after 2 yrs of use), but also without the problem the local ASUS reseller (Peru), replace it for one RIVBE (for additional $50).

    PS. It took me almost 5 min to decrypt "gamers/whateveryoucallthosepeoplewhobuildsystemsbasedstri ctlyonwhatthecomponentslooklike..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    Yeah, agreed. Good Post Ciarlatano! An interesting commentary on the state of the industry too. Sort of like, the recent let's all make our boards Red and Black and put armor on them, and we'll all call them "GAMING" (MSI, GIGABYTE...etc).

    You're probably right about the quality of the individual components, and if both are equal in price, I'd probably err on the side of the ASUS. But...as to the Dragons and LED's, I must point out:

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    Owls...Really?

    Scott
    The owls are embarrassing. I have no idea what they were thinking with that. When I got the Strix headset for evaluation, I asked if I was supposed to evaluate the sound quality or its potential as part of a Halloween costume.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    Yes, you absolutely right about ASUS quality, since I start using it (before I use Soyo boards till 2000), I've notice the quality of ASUS components and I've never had a single issue with any of my boards except of RIVE (RAM controller died after 2 yrs of use), but also without the problem the local ASUS reseller (Peru), replace it for one RIVBE (for additional $50).

    PS. It took me almost 5 min to decrypt "gamers/whateveryoucallthosepeoplewhobuildsystemsbasedstri ctlyonwhatthecomponentslooklike..."
    Ah ha! A Soyo user! Now I see your attraction to MSI! It's all about the dragons.

    The Soyo Dragons were great boards. I had a couple with top end AMD processors, definitely my favorite board of the period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    The owls are embarrassing. I have no idea what they were thinking with that. When I got the Strix headset for evaluation, I asked if I was supposed to evaluate the sound quality or its potential as part of a Halloween costume.



    Ah ha! A Soyo user! Now I see your attraction to MSI! It's all about the dragons.

    The Soyo Dragons were great boards. I had a couple with top end AMD processors, definitely my favorite board of the period.
    Yup, my first personal PC was pentium MMX 233 MHz and Soyo SY-5EMA (socket 7) paired with diamond S3 ViRGE VGA, in that time both (Intel and AMD) CPUs was using the same socket type. Intel CPUs MMX 166, 200, 233 MHz and AMD K6 CPUs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    Yup, my first personal PC was pentium MMX 233 MHz and Soyo SY-5EMA (socket 7) paired with diamond S3 ViRGE VGA, in that time both (Intel and AMD) CPUs was using the same socket type. Intel CPUs MMX 166, 200, 233 MHz and AMD K6 CPUs.
    I know my last one was a Dragon KT400 Ultra Platinum with the ridiculous silvery white PCB. I want to say I had a Barton 3200+ in it, best I can recollect. It died an untimely death due to a power failure during a BIOS update. Soyo wanted a ridiculous amount of money to reflash the chip, and it was time for an upgrade, so I scrapped it and went to a first gen Phenom on an ASUS board.

    Soyo, Abit, 50MHz OCs.....those were the days......

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    When Smiki posted SOYO, I was surprised I had forgotten them. I don't think I ever used one, but I certainly remember them! I had a Tyan when they dipped into consumer boards for awhile too. Loved that board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    When Smiki posted SOYO, I was surprised I had forgotten them. I don't think I ever used one, but I certainly remember them! I had a Tyan when they dipped into consumer boards for awhile too. Loved that board.
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    Tyan was the other mfg I was trying to think of. Great boards at the time. This is like a stroll down memory lane. Next we'll be talking about the Athlon 333 and 400 FSB issues, and the Semprons blowing the Celerons away at a much lower price point.

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    I wanted to chime in here as well. Course, my experience is mostly with AM3+, but I've used SOOO many boards. Granted, I had some major issues withe Crosshair V Formula-Z and Asus support sucks hard! But, Asus quality does seem to be the best still. I recently got a Sabertooth R2.0 for a father's day gift. This was the board I should've owned all along. One major thing I noticed is all the little static noises in my headset disappeared with that board. I use Crossfire so sound cards aren't always an option for me. Temperatures are the best I've seen and the socket isn't fragile.

    MSI makes impressive features, but with AMD they skimped on the VRMs. That's not a good sign. Asrock has been super dependable and their support is awesome, but the Asus quality is better. Gigabyte is really catching my attention, but I haven't had enough long term use with them to vouch for their quality over Asus. They might be on par though, but they only really stepped up their game with the latest Z170 and X99 boards. Hard to tell still. The 990FX gaming is the best bang for buck board I've seen to date though (plus, in the top 3 of best 990FX boards right now).

    Also got a puppy for father's day. Border Collie/Lab mix. Looks like the border collie though. His name is Bucky. (Yep, like the civil war Bucky)
    Last edited by joshjaks; 29-06-2016 at 12:21. Reason: Forgot some stuff..

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshjaks View Post
    I wanted to chime in here as well. Course, my experience is mostly with AM3+, but I've used SOOO many boards. Granted, I had some major issues withe Crosshair V Formula-Z and Asus support sucks hard! But, Asus quality does seem to be the best still. I recently got a Sabertooth R2.0 for a father's day gift. This was the board I should've owned all along. One major thing I noticed is all the little static noises in my headset disappeared with that board. I use Crossfire so sound cards aren't always an option for me. Temperatures are the best I've seen and the socket isn't fragile.

    MSI makes impressive features, but with AMD they skimped on the VRMs. That's not a good sign. Asrock has been super dependable and their support is awesome, but the Asus quality is better. Gigabyte is really catching my attention, but I haven't had enough long term use with them to vouch for their quality over Asus. They might be on par though, but they only really stepped up their game with the latest Z170 and X99 boards. Hard to tell still. The 990FX gaming is the best bang for buck board I've seen to date though (plus, in the top 3 of best 990FX boards right now).

    Also got a puppy for father's day. Border Collie/Lab mix. Looks like the border collie though. His name is Bucky. (Yep, like the civil war Bucky)
    Congrats on the puppy!

    BTW- that puppy would probably be more functional as an Intel board than anything made by Gigabyte or ASRock Gigabyte makes great AMD boards, my 990FX UD5 blew the CHV away. However, as far as Intel, well, Gigabyte makes great AMD boards. Gigabyte Intel boards always have all kinds of weird issues due to something being designed or coded incorrectly, and always some low quality chips hiding somewhere (next thing you know you are looking for a driver for a controller made by "Fred's Discount Silicon of Boise, Idaho"). And ASRock makes great $79 boards (even when they charge $199 for them), but not really applicable in this conversation.

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