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    Hey all, upon my move to Intel this summer, I would like to know, which CPU would be better for Gaming and Multitasking. I basically do everything on here, from Video editing, to surfing the net, to playing demanding games. The CPUs I am considering are

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700

    My question is, which one would be best, and why. Just for you all wondering, I am planning on putting it on either

    This ASUS P5E LGA775 X38 Motherboard or this DFI Lanparty X48 motherboard.
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    Well it's all depend if you want high overclocking or not?
    Q6700 is a best deal for overclocking, it will gives you high OC 3.8ghz - 4.0ghz due to higher multiplier.

    Q9300 won't give you high OC result due to lower multiplier but it runs much cooler and require less voltage as well, performance a little better when you do multimedia or video encoding. Instead of getting Q9300, you should look at the Q9450. It's only cost about $50 more but you will get 12mb of L2 Cache. This will make a lot of differences in the performance.

    X48 is a side step upgrade from X38 boards, minor improvement from X38, native support 1600fsb, better memory overclocking. Either X38 or X48 will performs better with DDR3 vs with DDR2. Unfortunately, DDR3 still cost too much to justify a little improvement over DDR2 at the moment.

    If this your fresh build, you should go with Q9450 and look for a X48 board that support both DDR2 and DDR3. So you have feature proof upgrade path when DDR3 drop in price and when Intel release mainstream 1600fsb chips.

    Keep this in mind, Intel will stop making any processors for 775 socket when they released Nahalem. This is a totaly different ball game here. So you should build a rig that should last you at least 3 years.

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    Ohhhhhh dear, so they will stop? Would it be wise to hold off and go Intel next year on their new socket? I am quite happy getting a Phenom to push me on for a year. I also do not plan on overclocking much, depending on the cooler I have I would go X48, but I cannot afford DDR3 RAM.

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    Yeah that's a rumor but who knows when Intel actually going to release the Nahalem? The schedule is Q4 2009 but look at the Yorkfield, hardly have enough for the demand. Because Intel wants to push off all the Kentsfiled first before they massive release all the Yorkfield. That's why we have a big price drop for the Kentsfield at the moment.

    There're X48 boards that only support DDR2. I think it is best just to upgrade your existing CPU, this won't cost you a lot and wait for the Nahalem.

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    I don't think id be able to wait for the Nahelem, because of relocating to the UK by late 2009 and won't be able to afford it in UK prices.

    So the X48 boards support DDR2 but also are DDR3 compatible?

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    That's a catch here.

    There're not many boards that support both type of Ram, just one or the other but I saw an ad of the board that support both DRR2/DDR3, can't remember what brand at the moment. I will let you know if I my memory come back to me. I'm having a brain fart at the moment

    Can't wait?
    So get the X48 board with the fastest DDR2 (DDR2 must cheaper than DDR3 now), and a Q9300 (I perfer Q9450 thought, becuase of 12mb cache), Q9450, Q9550 and Q9650 will become more avaliable later this year Q3. Then they will have price drops if you can wait till then? with this build will last you up to 3-4yrs then you can drop in a 1600fsb CPU and it will last you another couple years. By that time the Nahelem will be cheaper and have better product choices then.

    In my case I'm waiting for Q9550 and Q9650 or 1600fsb one to upgrade my Q6600. It will gives me at least 2 more years before I build a complete new rig (Nahalem). Hey, I'm dreaming of building a Skulltrail rig though

    Hooray......my memory came back to me, here is one of the board that support both type of ram the
    MSI X48C Platinum, 4 DIMMs but only 2 DIMMs will support DDR2 up to 4Gb though and here is the review for the X48 Platinum the DDR3 only version but they are still the same board. Acorrding to the review this is not a top dog board though.

    Interested getting P45 board? this one support both Ram as well Gigabyte GA-P45-DS5 (review) but it's not avaliable yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth Hale View Post
    but I cannot afford DDR3 RAM.
    at least not if your trying to buy 8 gb's of it.

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    Indeed, Thank you for your help Deton, it was very much appreciated. If possible, I will definitely get the 9450, if not, the 9300. I am really excited for making the switch now. Who would have thought I would change from AMD, it took some going!

    Indeed smith, I cannot afford 8GB DDR3 RAM, so ill wait for prices to drop. Although, DDR2 is more than perfect for me right now.

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    Gareth, You made the flat assertion that ddr3 is too expensive. If you were to buy ddr3 board I noticed that the price of ddr3 @ say 1333 is (can be) below that of fast ddr2.
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    http://www.memoryc.com/computermemor...twin3xdhx.html

    http://www.memoryc.com/computermemor...0hkseries.html

    So maybe to keep initial cost low you may consider the cheapest/slowest ddr3 on the later platform which would remain upgrade-able later (which is what I should have done)

    Oh and do it now before you re-locate, That's why i includeed uk site prices ouch!

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    Eventually DDR3 prices will drop, with 2Gig of DDR3 1333 at the current price you can get 4Gig of DDR2 1066 instead, a good brand and model too. Last month, I picked up 8G (4G kit) OCZ Reaper Hpc PC8500 for $125 per kit after rebate, matter fact this memory are still on rebate until the end of May.

    As I said, DDR2 dropping price like flies at the moment, you can get 2G PC6400 for under $50.

    You need at least 4G (at least) if you're running 64bit OS, and if you are not OCing past 425fsb then you don't really need a memory faster than 800Mhz.

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    also note that the lower end DDR3 1333 and 1600 performance are lacking compared to DDR2 800 and 1066 with low CAS latencys of 3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145165) or 4 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820161063). the only ones i have seen to out perform low CAS DDR2 are the 1800MHZ and 2GHz DDR3 even tho there CAS is at 8 or 9

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    Indeed, DDR3 cheap ram is dropping fast, but Id optimally like 8GB because of my work with virtual machines. I also don't particularly want to replace my RAM at this time because I have stretched my budget just to get this CPU. I understand DDR3 will be good, but at this time, I simply cannot afford it till August 09 at earliest. :$

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    Before we go ahead and order the processor, would it be worthwhile getting an AMD Phenom Quad Core, to save on the motherboard, then I could probably get faster DDR2 1066 RAM and possibly a 9800GX2?

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    Just a thought or two on AMD sys. (again as a result of a quick trawl of various sites)

    considering cpu only therfore this is about how important performance is to you:-

    Pricing puts X4 9850 in the same ballpark as q6600
    stock speed puts performance around 8% better than q6600 stock (100% cores load)
    stable clock on air probably circa 2900 (16%)
    Q6600 @24/7 probably 3400 (39%) on air 3600(50%) if noise not an issue
    This will swing the performance advantage.from

    Q6600stock to x4 9850 overclocked =125%
    6600stock to 6600 overclocked 139% (14% advantage intel)

    9450 @3.2 probably performs as good as 6600 @ 3.4 - 3.6 and over time you could get this higher.
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    Wow, ill definitely order the Intel then. Thanks for your help

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    Just found a roundup that I think you should read ... Kinda confirms my above post.

    It also shows the current benefits by dual core if not seriously using multithreading but I think in future there will be more and more progs for quads

    Going all out (see the folding graphs) shows where we could be in the near future.

    AND all of this is stock clock
    Rig2: 2*e5-26xx (16c/32t @2.4), Asus z9 pe-d8 ws, 32gb ripjawsz under water, rig3 2*e5-26xx (16c/32t @2.4), Supermicro 7047A-T 16GB 1600 ecc reg, on air, Rig4: 2*e5-26xx (16c/32t @3.1), Supermicro x9 DAi 16GB 1600 ecc reg, on air, Rig5: 2*e5-2660 (16c/32t @2.7), Supermicro x9 DRW iF 32GB 1600 ecc reg, on air

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