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    Hello folks. I am in the market for a new pc, more specifically a good laptop. I have went a little overboard as I want a decent gaming rig, and HD quality for movies etc.

    Sager 8170 S-1 Ultimate Custom Gaming Notebook Computer (Built on Clevo P170HM)
    17.3” Full HD(1920x1080)16:9 LED Backlit Super Clear Glossy Widescreen- Wide Viewing Angle
    30 Day No Questions Asked Money Back Guarantee! (Others only give you 15 days)
    nVidia GeForce GTX 470M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 (User Upgradeable!)
    Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM 2nd Gen. (3.3GHz, 45W) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads
    IC Diamond Premium Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
    8GB (8192Mb DDR3 1333MHz SDRAM (4gb + 4gb)
    120GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 Solid State Hard Drive "SSD" Serial-ATA II-Lasts 1.2 million hours
    500GB l 7200RPM I SATA II-300 (16MB Cache Buffer)
    Panasonic UJ-120 4X BD-R/8X DVD+-R / 2.4X + DL BLU-RAY Reader with Software
    No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - If extra HD is selected, will remove Optical Drive
    No External USB Optical Drive
    Integrated-Built In Fingerprint Reader
    Enhanced High Definition 3D Audio Sound System with S/P DIF Digital Output - SB Compatible
    Internal Built-In 7-in-1 Memory Card Reader (MS/MS PRO/MS DUO/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RSMMC)
    Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Digital Video Camera (Built In Webcam!)
    Integrated Built in 10/1000 Fast Ethernet / LAN Network Card
    Intel® Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module Bluetooth
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Installed (64 and 32 bit CD included with drivers)
    Standard Smart Li-ion Battery Pack - 8 Cell

    Obviously with the Intel issue, this will delay things, but it will give me a little more time to shop around.
    So, any thoughts from the guru's?

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    Laptops aren't affected with this problem its just the P/H67 motherboards.

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    for games rig why you go with laptop?

    I didn't see you listed any RAM

    laptop's battery will drain quickly when you play games and they are pretty hot as well durring game.

    My AMD lap isn't build for game but the damn thing is hot and its fan go 200mph when I have the photoshop open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    Laptops aren't affected with this problem its just the P/H67 motherboards.
    Well, thats great Duff. I thought.. wrongly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    for games rig why you go with laptop?

    I didn't see you listed any RAM

    laptop's battery will drain quickly when you play games and they are pretty hot as well durring game.

    My AMD lap isn't build for game but the damn thing is hot and its fan go 200mph when I have the photoshop open.
    8mb 1333 ram. I should have explained. I am disabled and sitting at my desktop just isn't feasible for me. Battery life won't be an issue.

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    No worries Jax that's why were here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post

    8mb 1333 ram. I should have explained. I am disabled and sitting at my desktop just isn't feasible for me. Battery life won't be an issue.
    it's not only that but when it's overheated then it gets slowing down, that's at least for my laptop.

    You can build a desktop and hook it up to your TV. Well, it just a thought. You should get whatever fit your circumstances.

    BTW, the choice components are good but I don't think this OEM allows you to overclock it if you're not concern about it.

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    Hey Jaxy, good to see you arrived! Sorry couldn't reply sooner, been just a wee bit crazy on my end, my apologies.

    Ya Deton, he already has a gaming desktop, now he needs a gaming laptop.

    Those are some impressive specs, the SSD/HDD setup is killer. Depending on the price, look into the possibility of upgrading the GPU to a 485.......IF the price is worth it. That's honestly the only thing I could see being improved, everything else is very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    it's not only that but when it's overheated then it gets slowing down, that's at least for my laptop.

    You can build a desktop and hook it up to your TV. Well, it just a thought. You should get whatever fit your circumstances.

    BTW, the choice components are good but I don't think this OEM allows you to overclock it if you're not concern about it.
    Hmm. The tech I talked to at this place said the install is a retail disc. I will have to double check that. I do want to be able to OC the system, if nothing other than curiosity. I may have to invest in a cooling tray. (I can't review it without over clocking lol!) I wish I could get an Asus built with these specs as they have a good design for airflow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    Hey Jaxy, good to see you arrived! Sorry couldn't reply sooner, been just a wee bit crazy on my end, my apologies.

    Ya Deton, he already has a gaming desktop, now he needs a gaming laptop.

    Those are some impressive specs, the SSD/HDD setup is killer. Depending on the price, look into the possibility of upgrading the GPU to a 485.......IF the price is worth it. That's honestly the only thing I could see being improved, everything else is very good.
    No problem Jake. I know you are busyer than a 1 legged man in an ass kicking contest. Yea, the desktop is in John's room... said he needed to "borrow" it lol.

    Well, the 2 gb 485m is a $360 upgrade. (Most places want damn near $500 for the upgrade). Anyways, I am thinking over the next 2 years, this might be worth the cost. What do you guys think?

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    Some HM67 laptops are affected, MSI UK posted PR about this a couple of days ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    Some HM67 laptops are affected, MSI UK posted PR about this a couple of days ago
    I will have to check this out then if I go this route. This built on the hm67 chipset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    I will have to check this out then if I go this route. This built on the hm67 chipset.
    According to the Sager support forums, this model is affected and no more laptops will be built until further notice. Late Feb / Early March. So now, I gotta wait or go the X58 route. Not sure I want to do that.

    *sigh*

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    Good suggestion Doc, and good research Jaxy! Better to know now.

    Don't bother going with something else unless you need something NOW. The problem with laptops is they aren't upgradable. I'd suggest waiting a month or two and then dive in, you won't be sorry. I know it's tough to hold off but if you pull the trigger now you will probably regret it later.

    And to prove my point, I have just one word for you: Alienware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    Good suggestion Doc, and good research Jaxy! Better to know now.

    Don't bother going with something else unless you need something NOW. The problem with laptops is they aren't upgradable. I'd suggest waiting a month or two and then dive in, you won't be sorry. I know it's tough to hold off but if you pull the trigger now you will probably regret it later.

    And to prove my point, I have just one word for you: Alienware.

    Remember?
    Oo that stings Jake! Its not a huge deal, but 5 of us sharing one laptop is becoming, well, a pain in the butt! If the performance between the x58 / processors and the 2nd generation are big enough, I am going try to hold out. Also, this little Toshiba that belongs to my wife sputters pretty bad when I say words like "game" or "photoshop" lmao.

    Ok, off to call the psychiatrist over the Alien issue. (never again!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    No problem Jake. I know you are busyer than a 1 legged man in an ass kicking contest. Yea, the desktop is in John's room... said he needed to "borrow" it lol.
    LMFAO....1 Legged....how the fricking you stand and kicking the same time?
    you must be laying down and kicking the guy ass like a baby huh?

    sorry guys....couldn't help it had to make a comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deton View Post
    LMFAO....1 Legged....how the fricking you stand and kicking the same time?
    you must be laying down and kicking the guy ass like a baby huh?

    sorry guys....couldn't help it had to make a comment
    Deton lol, oh I heard that one years ago. I figured Jake was torturing some poor video card and processor, building somebody a rig, and working full time.

    I have dug a little more into the x58 / 1st generation i7's and compared several against sandy. Obviously they made some improvements (smaller die, less power). I just do not understand why the older processors are still so damn expensive. Going to grab my shovel and dig some more.

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    Think I'm going to have to go with an x58 system. Tried to game for a while tonight on the wifes laptop, it just can't handle it. Gets hot and shuts down. Airflow is fine. Its just not a gaming rig.

    I'll post some new specs tomorrow on a different laptop. Let you guys rip on it. Thanks for all the help so far, I appreciate it!

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