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    Default Power Trouble - Gateway CX210X

    I recently did some work on my daughter's convertible laptop. I replaced the cpu, the panel assembly and upgraded the hdd. Before, it would turn on but nothing else, and now it starts just enough for the fan to turn on, then goes dead. I know it's an old laptop but funds are too tight for an upgrade. Aside from the obvious suggestion, any help is greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: Power Trouble - Gateway CX210X

    Did you replace the cpu or did you upgrade the cpu too?
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    Default Re: Power Trouble - Gateway CX210X

    Replaced the cpu, and for the panel assembly, because of the difficulty to find one in stock, well, anywhere, I found a place selling 2 of the same laptops on ebay for parts, $40. I read your response last night, so I swapped the new chip with one from the others, and got a little more of a response, but still, nada. I noticed on the heatsink there was a little foil patch where it made contact with the cpu. On the the original it was torn with a piece stuck on the original chip. I used one of the others that still had it, but I am wondering if it's necessary, or can I use thermal paste in it's place. I have a little Arctic Silver left from past "experiments".

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    Default Re: Power Trouble - Gateway CX210X

    I don't think that's your issue your saying it wont boot at all correct?
    Did it ever bootup after you made those changes?
    Im thinking it maybe a HDD issue or connection issue when you updated to another HDD or maybe setting in the bios or both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystikhol9 View Post
    Replaced the cpu, and for the panel assembly, because of the difficulty to find one in stock, well, anywhere, I found a place selling 2 of the same laptops on ebay for parts, $40. I read your response last night, so I swapped the new chip with one from the others, and got a little more of a response, but still, nada. I noticed on the heatsink there was a little foil patch where it made contact with the cpu. On the the original it was torn with a piece stuck on the original chip. I used one of the others that still had it, but I am wondering if it's necessary, or can I use thermal paste in it's place. I have a little Arctic Silver left from past "experiments".

    Some of the foil patches ask as a thermal pad but also as a spacer to ensure solid contact. If it is one of the really thin ones you can remove it and use thermal paste. If it is thick, leave it in place and ad thermal paste. I hate the foil. They are usless. The one with the foil stuck to it, is a sign of excessive heat.



    To help me troubleshoot this with you I need to start from the beginning. Why did you start all of this work in the first place. It is odd to replace the cpu and lcd at once. To me it sounds like you had a power and no video to start with. If both of those have been replaced and you have no post now then it is possible the board was bad in the first place. memory, Is it seated correctly? Remove everything that is not needed for post. battery, hdd, dvd/cd drive, wifi cards ect. have you double checked the lcd cable at the board and on the back of the lcd panel. These can cause shorts and stop a unit from posting.

    What exactly does it do now? Flash a light then shut off? Blinking like? Screen flash? Anything
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    Around Jan or Feb my wife was using it propped up on a blanket when it it just shut down. I knew what happened, so I let it sit for about an hour, then tried to start it with no response. I opened the back and the chip had the foil stuck to it pretty good. Because of it's age, I pulled the hdd, actually ssd, (100g) and was able to pull the data from it, (took a bit work). We figured we'll get a new one when the "money tree" starts blooming again. Yeah, right. About a month or so ago, after submitting post, I found a place to get the parts I needed. Aside from the chip, the glass on the panel and the hinge was broken, the stylus didn't work, and after clearing the ssd, found there was only a few ggs of free space left. So, a new chip, new 250g drive, and a new stylus. Panel assembly was out of stock and had been for some time. This is where ebay comes in. Before getting into the repair job, opened one of the other units to see what parts I could pull from it and see how everything was put together, in other words, a full gut job. There were 2 units after all. Now to the meat of the matter. So, good panel, new chip, new ssd, and light at the end of the tunnel. At first only two lights came on and nothing else. Thought about the foil and used the heatsink from one of the other units. Same thing, only the fan would start once every few times. Checked my post before going to bed, read your response. One of the other units still had the chip in it, swapped it out and now three lights and the fan come on every time, then off. Went back to the old ssd, no change, put the new one back. While typing this, I remembered there were some memory sticks from the other units, so tried 'em, same thing. Before I forget, when I hold down the power button, it stays on for a hair longer, but not long enough to be considered a plus.

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    Sorry to be the barer of bad news but you have a chipset failure. Based everything you have done. I called the excessive heat issue based on the foil. You proved me right. The heatsink also covers the chipset. If the CPU wasn't cooling right neither was the chip set. You need a new board. Since you have two more of the same models from eBay I'm guessing they have the same problem. Might be worth a shot to check those boards but chances are slim you do much better.
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    Thanks for the info! It's always good to have spare parts, hmm? So we'll see what happens. At least if it doesn't work out, I'm getting a little more knowledgeable about laptops inner workings, (not enough to want to build one though).

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    Thanks for the info! It's always good to have spare parts, hmm? So we'll see what happens. At least if it doesn't work out, I'm getting a little more knowledgeable about laptops inner workings, (not enough to want to build one though).
    Quite a learning experience Good luck hope you can get it going again

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    Good luck my man. I hope you find a way to get it running. Maybe find a cheap board on eBay. Or sell all those parts you have so you can get another cheap laptop off Craig's list or eBay.

    For the heck out it try this. Sometimes heat creates similar issues as the Xbox 360 had with rrod. I have actually fix a few laptops doing this but don't bet on it. Works mostly on the ones with nvidia chipsets. Get a small thin slip of copper or aluminum and place it on top of the chip set. You don't want paper thin. But can't be very thick..you want to create a shim that will add extra pressure to the chipset when the heatsink is screwed down. If you get lucky it will push the bga in and the unit will post. To test it you can try with a penny. Use thermal paste on each side of the penny just in case it post. Don't want to burn it up. Remember the chances of it working are slim. Put wth its already dead. Maybe play with the other boards if they came with the other laptops you bought.
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