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    Default DIY Laptops. Will it ever happen?

    Does anyone think that component manufacturers will ever develop standardized components that would allow "home-building" of laptops the way we build our own desktops right now? It's definitely possible, but will it ever happen? There are a few laptops on the market that are made to be upgrade-able, or allow you to switch components for multiple options. However, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about actually building one with components from a choice of vendors. Will we ever be able to pick a chassis, add a motherboard, choose a CPU, GPU, Storage, etc maybe even choosing from choices in screen panels, speakers, keyboard, and such?

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    Default Re: DIY Laptops. Will it ever happen?

    by the looks of it we are going to skip laptops and go into personalized cellphones

    currently cellphones are pushing the envelope on being desktop replacments
    seriously. i kid you not

    anyhow, there is a modular cellphone that you buy what processor you want and plug it in. what storage you want and plug it in, on on on and on

    these as desktops, coupled with say, maybe the sony 3D headset, and you have a truly better than normal desktop experiance
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    Default Re: DIY Laptops. Will it ever happen?

    I still think this is an untapped market. Does anyone know of a real reason why companies can't or won't develop standardized laptop components for DIY use?

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    Default Re: DIY Laptops. Will it ever happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by HyperactiveSloth View Post
    I still think this is an untapped market. Does anyone know of a real reason why companies can't or won't develop standardized laptop components for DIY use?
    I think it's really for several reasons.

    1. Cooling. Frankly, the lengths we go to cool our desktops is typically completely unnecessary for normal use. If you keep your CPU clocked at a reasonable rate, and have reasonably sized case, the stock cooler blowing into the case is more than enough to keep the CPU cool enough to operate, even if you never pay attention to the intake outake flows, or supplemental case fans or anything.

    In a laptop, the thermal engineering is MUCH harder. There isn't a lot of space to begin with, and very little airflow. With just the variation in TDP's between different processors, you'd have a hard time solving for this. If you added in variable thermal models for different motherboards, drives, wifi cards...yada yada yada, it would be a nightmare.

    Of course, if you made the laptop big enough that wouldn't matter enough, but in this day and age of Ultrabooks and iPads, the demand for big laptops is probably minimal. There are exceptions, like Gaming Laptops, but that gets back to that heat engineering problem again...

    2. Marketing. Laptops are sold differently than Desktops. A two year old laptop is OLD. Three years is archaic. Desktops not so much, and enthusiast grade stuff like we build last a long time... Further, laptops are sold to business people and students, not to enthusiasts (generally speaking, and with noted exceptions), these people aren't generally all that interested in building it, just using it.

    3. Demand. As much as you or I might want to build a custom laptop, people that want to do that are probably fewer between than people who want to build water cooling loops. This means that producing the parts at a low enough cost would likely be extremely impractical.

    And Calemus makes a good point too. Perhaps with customizable cell phones and the greatly increased processing power showing up in them, a bluetooth keyboard and your screen shared to a TV might be all you need with your phone to function as a Laptop....

    It's been tried. At best though I think what was available was something akin to selecting some pre-engineered parts and assembling it yourself. It wasn't really a "custom" laptop where you chose a case, a MB, a CPU, etc.

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    Default Re: DIY Laptops. Will it ever happen?

    Biggest thing missing is a consortium of interested parties. Intel would need to see how this benefits their vision and bottom line. Will this effect relationships with down channel partners? If and only if these looks good that would have to get board makers, case makers, cooling options, LCD manufacturers involved. All to come up with a standard for component placements and specs. go to the IEEE for compliance and certification blah blah blah. It is possible that it gets started with board makers looking to sell more crap to customers but I doubt it. Remember they all already create ODM boards for PC and Notebook manufactures. So they would be trading 1 sell for another 1 they may have a smaller margin.

    At the end of the day it wont happen. Why would Dell, Acer, Lenovo or any other want you to freely circumvent them? They would raise so much hell as soon as Intel tried to float this, the idea will die. I am sure it has already came up and was killed. A few years ago i remember seeing notebook chassis for sell. There were a couple boards that could fit it.

    If they want this to work they would have to find a way to use current tech. Like a Mini ITX board with a mobile GPU card to pcie conversion adapter msata or M.2, Mini Pci e for wireless and BT. low voltage desktop i5 and i7 cpus.
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    Default Re: DIY Laptops. Will it ever happen?

    I can hardly put my overgrown hands into my Midtower and you want to build a laptop? Every component would need a fan to be on par with a desktop, Inwin has it right , their open air cases are like the old Danger Den Torture racks that were easy to work on. I couldn't imagine replaceable mechanical keyboards for my laptop. LOL

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