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    Default Pushing the envelope.

    I have not done much in the way of memory overclocking before today but having seen some benching types talking about some cheap sticks I thought I would have a play

    The packaging says these are 11,11,11,28 ddr3 1600 at 1.35v.

    I fired up the new rig an hour or two ago and guess what... they do 2133 cas 10 on AUTO!! and at 1.5v (maybe less)

    So far they have done 4 passes LinX at 2400 at 11,12,12,28 at 1.65v

    Stunning considering I don't really have a clue and am learning as I go

    Anyone know a good source of info on secondary and tertiary timing relationships???

    Look them up, they are Samsung 30nm green (SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4G 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US) Around $50 for 8Gigs

    Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US

    If you like benching then I reckon these would do 2800 if you can cool them enough to push the volts.
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    Default Re: Pushing the envelope.

    Mike, I believe we reviewed that kit, you might want to talk to Jake.

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    Default Re: Pushing the envelope.

    I missed that but yes. The thing is that in one of the newer max 5 gene motherboards not only do they overclock..... they just seem to keep going higher and higher.

    I must admit I was skeptical about the claims I had heard about these but give me a while and I reckon I will achieve 2400 stable within the normal voltage range of enthusiast ram and that from a 1600 kit seems like a good deal.

    Even though these do not have heat spreaders they don't seem to get very warm. I have a fan running air past but not directly onto them. Need to bring a laser thermometer home from work this weekend
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    Default Re: Pushing the envelope.

    2400MHz will happen. I learned a lot yesterday from JJ at Asus. Pushing the memory frequencies and Bandwith is better all around with the mass of motherboards lanes with today's platforms. Certain controllers benefit a lot from higher frequencies (PCIe 3.0/USB 3.0). Through my reviewing and testing memory, some applications run better at lower frequencies and tighter timings. The best way to find out what is best for you is save a profile for each stable memory frequency and run some benchmarks that are comparable to what is used mostly in your system. PCMark would be a good one and tahe a look at video scores, gaming, encoding and things of thet nature. When you find the sweet spot for apps you run, tune that frequency in. Sometimes 2133MHz at tighter frequencies will trump looser timings at 2400MHz.

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    Default Re: Pushing the envelope.

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    I have not done much in the way of memory overclocking before today but having seen some benching types talking about some cheap sticks I thought I would have a play

    The packaging says these are 11,11,11,28 ddr3 1600 at 1.35v.

    I fired up the new rig an hour or two ago and guess what... they do 2133 cas 10 on AUTO!! and at 1.5v (maybe less)

    So far they have done 4 passes LinX at 2400 at 11,12,12,28 at 1.65v

    Stunning considering I don't really have a clue and am learning as I go

    Anyone know a good source of info on secondary and tertiary timing relationships???

    Look them up, they are Samsung 30nm green (SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4G 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US) Around $50 for 8Gigs

    Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4G 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US
    wow that is a crazyIf you like benching then I reckon these would do 2800 if you can cool them enough to push the volts.
    wow that is a crazy oc
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    Default Re: Pushing the envelope.

    Screen shots of CPUZ pls. I am not buying those timings are correct. Be great if they are but that is real high...
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    Default Re: Pushing the envelope.

    I believe we had a value kit from Crucial with no heat spreaders that also went on to beat most of the really expensive kits.

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    Well, this is the result of playing for a day with these. I am sure that someone with more knowledge could improve on this.

    I am not suggesting for a moment that this is a 24/7 setting.... that is more likely to be in the range 2200-2400 where the voltage can be more reasonable around the 1.5v ish mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Well, this is the result of playing for a day with these. I am sure that someone with more knowledge could improve on this.

    I am not suggesting for a moment that this is a 24/7 setting.... that is more likely to be in the range 2200-2400 where the voltage can be more reasonable around the 1.5v ish mark.
    That is incredible and you could probably push them to 1.65 (I think) LOL daily.
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    Default Re: Pushing the envelope.

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Well, this is the result of playing for a day with these. I am sure that someone with more knowledge could improve on this.

    I am not suggesting for a moment that this is a 24/7 setting.... that is more likely to be in the range 2200-2400 where the voltage can be more reasonable around the 1.5v ish mark.
    that is a wicked high oc
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