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    witch is better c16 or c14 when it come to memory I was looking at these kits was going to go for the 128gb but thought it was just stupid can I get a vote on with ones u guys would choose ? 1st kit Dominator® Platinum Series 64GB (8 x 8G DDR4 DRAM 2800MHz C16 Memory Kit (CMD64GX4M8A2800C16)

    2nd kit Dominator® Platinum Series 64GB (8 x 8G DDR4 DRAM 2800MHz C14 Memory Kit (CMD64GX4M8B2800C14)

    3rd kit http://www.corsair.com/en/dominator-...8gx4m8b2800c14


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    Aryan51,

    All _other_ things being equal, then lower CAS numbers are better than higher CAS numbers, so kits 2 and 3 are faster than kit 1.

    As I recall, CAS (Column Address Strobe) is a measure in clock cycles how quickly the DIMM can respond to a memory read/write request to a particular address. So, a lower number of clock cycles is better, as that means it returns the data to the processor quicker, yielding less wait states in the processor while it waits for a value to be returned. It's been awhile since I read up on RAM, so I could be wrong in the specifics, but with any two DIMMS clocked at the same rate, with the same voltage and interface the one with the LOWEST CAS numbers will be the quickest.

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    ok I already gone nuts on this build should I go for the 128gb ram or the 64 gb kit
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    LOL. It's your money. I can't think of any practical reason to have 128GB at this point in time, but I'm not sure what you're using this monster for. I presume gaming, in which case 32 or 64 are no doubt sufficient at this point in time. Many people (most) would argue that 16 is enough, and 32 Overkill. Let me look back at the earlier threads on this and I may edit this answer.

    Nope. I'd say stick with 64GB. The only thing the extra 64GB would buy you (maybe) is the option to load a game onto a RAM Disk, but with your super duper SSD's, this seems kind of a moot point to me. Although I'm not terribly familiar with the lofty heights of 4K gaming, I'd hazard a guess that the Video Cards are really going to be handling most of the load there, and while I've seen super duper amounts of RAM have a noticeable improvement on playability in MMORPG's, I expect that in most games, your Return on Investment after you hit 32GB is close to nil. So, since 32 is probably more than enough, and 64 is about two times more than enough, I'd say stick with 64 and save a few $$$. But again, it's your money! 128GB would sure be some serious hardware for sure!

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    Also look at my system specs
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    Looking Fast.

    One thing I noticed: I wouldn't bother running those OCZ's in RAID0. You're doubling your risk of Data Errors for no practical purpose. They're already going to be fast enough without the RAID, and your NVMe SM951 is going to blow them out of the water no matter what you do. Unless I'm mistaken, your are likely to use them as bulk-storage for game files and media, so the 500MB/s you can read them at will be all but indistinguishable in most cases from the theoretical 1GB/s you might get from a RAID-0 configuration. In practical terms the only time you _might_ notice the improved speed is when you're copying a 25GB Blu Ray file from one drive to another, or some other huge file (>100M, which I'll submit is rare, and probably not work the risk of data corruption.

    That's just my .02 though. For the record, I run entirely on SSD, (more than 2TB worth), and they all run as normal drives. Drive to drive copies of large media copies are essentially instantaneous (for all practical purposes), and I have not had any data corruption on either my Windows or Linux machines in this configuration.

    There are a number of articles out there on this, but Tom's did a good one in 2013: One SSD Vs. Two In RAID: Which Is Better? - Are Two SSDs Any Better Than One? (Check out the conslusion).

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    ok I will do that but still got to order the ram so witch one ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aryan51 View Post
    ok I will do that but still got to order the ram so witch one ?
    If you're going with 64GB, than Kit 2 is the one to go with.

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    Gu3 is correct. Go with the 64GB kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aryan51 View Post
    ok I will do that but still got to order the ram so witch one ?
    Answer D - None of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    Yes indeed! Having said that, you might have a hard time finding it in stock. DDR4 at high speeds is damned hard to find right now.

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    got the 2nd kit 64gb
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    64GB for a gaming/Media System is completely overkill, even a good high speed 32GB kit will do the job well.

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    Just want to chime in. Unless you plan on doing virtualization, you have absolutely no need for huge capacities. Even 16 gb of memory is really hard to use when multitasking with 1000 tabs, running 3 or 4 games at the same time, and using your computerized nose-picking USB device so you don't have to take your hands off the games. (Slight over exaggeration) If you want to spend some serious dollars, just try to get the fast Mghz ram you can get. 32 GB should be the absolute max you would consider if you are just gaming. Try finding some ram up in the 3600 Mghz range and that will go farther for performance than 128 GB of 2800 Mghz ram. Either way you're so far into the diminishing returns range of performance that it becomes a waste of money.

    Financially, if I were you, I would look at a good kit of 2400 Mghz ram that will give more than enough performance, 16 GB, and put the money you save in a short term bond or IRA, shoot even a saving account, and keep some cash for future upgrades. You know that saying, "Don't put all your eggs into one basket?"

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    Oh, and for a complete overkill ram kit that is better than high capacity, here's a kit from G.Skill that would be pretty good. Get 2 for 32 GB.

    G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8G 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3400 (PC4 27200) Intel Z170 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-3400C16D-16GTZ - Newegg.com

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