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    Default Re: witch is better please help

    If I'm reading this right and the capacity ends up the same in the end, then the first one will be faster.
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    Woah, woah woah!!! I missed the message so bad man. Look, just get some salt make a ring around yourself and you can protect yourself from the witch. Didn't know she got the better of ya!
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    Default Re: witch is better please help

    so just asking one more thing witch is better c11 c14 c15 c16 and what does it mean
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    Default Re: witch is better please help

    Quote Originally Posted by aryan51 View Post
    so just asking one more thing witch is better c11 c14 c15 c16 and what does it mean
    Dude, you're killing me. It's "which" not "witch." It's CAS Latency, which means lower is better. The problem is, faster kits usually have higher CAS latencies. Generally, kit speed is more important than latencies, but that's not always the case. Your best bet is to find some performance results that are similar to the use you're looking for and find out what would suit your uses better.
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    dude I have been out of the game for 6 years a lot has CHANGED I have not built a system at least that long but I have been a member for that long
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    Default Re: witch is better please help

    My opinion either one would be fine for what your building but the first one would be my choice as it is the faster of the two
    the latency is not a huge difference either

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    Density: 64GB (4x16G
    Speed: 3466MHz
    Tested Latency: 16-18-18-36
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    Density: 128GB (8x16G
    Speed: 2800MHz
    Tested Latency: 14-16-16-31
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    As a followup to Vinny & Josh's answers,

    CAS (Column Address Strobe) is the number of clock cycles it takes the DIMM to retrieve information (bits) from a particular address on the DIMM, measured in cycles since the request was generated by the memory controller. As such, by itself, it is not a measure of speed on it's own. As Josh & Vinny pointed out, lower (less clock cycles) is better, but to determine which DIMM was faster using CAS, you would need to do some math.

    To use an example, if RAM is clocked @ 2000 Mhz, it is operating at 2 Million cycles per second. A CAS 14 DIMM would take .000007 seconds to retrieve a chunk of data from a specific address. However if it is operating a 3000 Mhz it would only take .000004 seconds, and a CAS 16 DIMM operating at that same 3000 MHz would only take .000005 seconds. You can see by this example, that at equivalent clock speeds, a lower CAS yields a faster DIMM. However, if you mix clock speeds, the results depend on both the CAS and the Clock.

    To use the DIMMS you're looking at, the CAS 16 DIMM @ 3466 MHz would need .0000046 seconds and the CAS 14 DIMM @ 2800 MHz needs .000005 seconds.

    Now, where it gets complicated, is if you do the math for a CAS 14 @ 3000 and a CAS 16 @ 3466. Then you have to start looking at the other latencies....

    So. The CAS 16 DIMM in this case is slightly faster than the CAS 14 DIMM. Is it noticeable? Probably not. However it could show itself in some benchmarks, as in absolute time, the CAS 16 DIMM is faster. However, in my experience, the faster your DIMM in clock speed, the more finicky the system is to get running (and often keep running). Higher clock rates mean more current draw, and higher heat, exacerbating your overall cooling problem. In this case, with two DIMMS of essentially identical design and manufacturer, the ONLY difference is likely to be the amount of current the chips pull, and the amount of heat generated. Crucial/Micron binned the 3466 Chips a bit higher, and set the DIMM Parameters to those settings.

    Personally, I'd be likely to go for the 2800 MHz DIMMS unless I was considering actively cooling the DIMMS.

    Good Luck

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    Note. My actual conversion of clock speed to time/tick is suspect, but it doesn't matter. Substitute any numbers you want in there as long as they bear the same relationship, and the results will be the same.

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    Default Re: witch is better please help

    As per my opinion I would have chosen first one as it is faster than second one.

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