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    My BIOS setup would be...
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    FSB Multipier 10X
    CPU FSB Frequency [240] CPU@around 2400MHZ(little higher)
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    Memclock Value [166 MHZ]
    Burst Length [8 Beats]
    Timings [Auto]
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    Hyper Transport
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    LDT to Geforce (N Frequency [Auto]
    LDT to Geforce (N Linkwidth [Auto]
    Nforce to Nvidia Frequency [800MHZ]
    Nforce to Nvideia Frequency [8 8]
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    I use ClockGen because of my limited BIOS and when that is running my CPU-Z specs are...
    CPU:2600 MHZ
    HTT: 260 MHZ
    Voltage 1.456-1.480V(changes)
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    Memory Timings
    Frequency: 216.7 MHZ
    2.5-3-3-7 1T command rate
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    Everest reads my HyperTransport Clock at 1300MHZ under my FrontSideBus properties , does that match up to the 800 Mhz its set to in BIOS ? I have 60 FSB w/ 10 x multiplier using clock gen.(BIOS is max out at 240)
    My questions are...

    1) Does that all check out for overclocking? The system apears to be stable but the sudden 600 MHZ change ClockGen does everyreboot might not be safe.
    2)What should the HyperTransport be set to *i can go to 1600 MHZ and 16 16(current 8 8 at 800 MHZ)
    3)In my BIOS i set the ram to 166 mhz so my FSB could be raised without causing system failures but when it posts it said DRAM Clocking 333 MHZ so my question is , is that normal.
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    It has come to my attention in counter strike source the consol is reading my cpu at 5.2 GHZ!!! What the ....CPUZ just reads 2600MHZ but i thought about it and if you add the 2.4 i have it set to in BIOS with the 2.6 i have it running at using clockgen it comes out to what my counterstrike consol is reading(5.2 GHZ) Does anyone else have the same thing happening to them?

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    yeah there has been screenies of this with people over 10GHz, it's an error, don't pay any attension to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
    yeah there has been screenies of this with people over 10GHz, it's an error, don't pay any attension to it
    Thanks, i restarted counterstrike at it was fine. how bout some help with the other questions its kind of urgent.

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    1) Does that all check out for overclocking? The system apears to be stable but the sudden 600 MHZ change ClockGen does everyreboot might not be safe.

    in the bios you said it was at 2.4GHz so its just a 200MHx increase the clockgen is doing is it not? is there any reason you don't just choose 260 in the BIOS?

    2)What should the HyperTransport be set to *i can go to 1600 MHZ and 16 16(current 8 8 at 800 MHZ)

    set 16 16 and 1000 MHz, some decent board will support 1500MHz or more HT buses, so once you do find the stable settings your hpayy with you can always raise this to see if it stays stable

    3)In my BIOS i set the ram to 166 mhz so my FSB could be raised without causing system failures but when it posts it said DRAM Clocking 333 MHZ so my question is , is that normal.

    perfectly normal, its DDR (double data rate) so though it is technically running at 166 t is mimicing the performance of 333, hence its name.

    FOr stress testing a machine i recommend Stress PrimeL http://sp2004.fre3.com/ run that for a couple of hours, if it doesn't error then you'll have a very stable system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
    1) Does that all check out for overclocking? The system apears to be stable but the sudden 600 MHZ change ClockGen does everyreboot might not be safe.

    in the bios you said it was at 2.4GHz so its just a 200MHx increase the clockgen is doing is it not? is there any reason you don't just choose 260 in the BIOS?

    2)What should the HyperTransport be set to *i can go to 1600 MHZ and 16 16(current 8 8 at 800 MHZ)

    set 16 16 and 1000 MHz, some decent board will support 1500MHz or more HT buses, so once you do find the stable settings your hpayy with you can always raise this to see if it stays stable

    3)In my BIOS i set the ram to 166 mhz so my FSB could be raised without causing system failures but when it posts it said DRAM Clocking 333 MHZ so my question is , is that normal.

    perfectly normal, its DDR (double data rate) so though it is technically running at 166 t is mimicing the performance of 333, hence its name.

    FOr stress testing a machine i recommend Stress PrimeL http://sp2004.fre3.com/ run that for a couple of hours, if it doesn't error then you'll have a very stable system.
    Thank you very much for all that and i edited what i wrote before but i dont think that will change your answers (hope not lol) it does however answer one of your questions though . My BIOS limits me to 240 FSB thats why i wont change it to 260 and thats why i got clockgen.

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    well i tryed 16 16 but then i cant even boot at 2.0Ghz so should i go 8 8 and then set it to the highest i can go after that ( 1000 1200 1600)

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    hmmm do you have any spread spectrum settings in there? you should disable these as they really limit overclocking.

    edit* though looking at your board its really meant to be a budget board, HT speed at 800 won't make much difference any way so i'd stick with this, it's not really a bottleneck in the overall scheme of things.

    I think the setting you've got will be fine, just stress test them and if it passes 2 hours and temps are fine, should be all good
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    i just disabled both spread specrtums

    Also in Everest it said my Hypertransport clock is 1300MHZ is that too high? If sso can i change it without lowering the FSB.

    In BIOS i have it set to
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    HyperTransport to
    Nforce to Nvidia Frequency 800
    Nforce to Nvidia Frequency 8 8

    LDT to Geforce (N Frequency [Auto]
    LDT to Geforce (N Linkwidth [Auto]

    OK nevermind i changed the LDT to Geforce Freq and Linkwidth to 800 and 8 8 now Everest sais Hypertransport clock 1040.Should i try 16 16 ,now that its lower or would that be worse? And if higher is better than which should i put on 16 16 LDT to Geforce or Nforce to Nvidia (you didnt say last time and 16 16 for Nforce to Nvidia wouldnt boot)

    If that got alittle confusing i guess all i want to know is what would be the best settings for
    LDT to Geforce (N Frequency
    LDT to Geforce (N Linkwidth
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    Nforce to Nvidia Frequency
    Nforce to Nvidia Linkwidth
    Again Thanks for the speedy help
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    anyone have any ideas?:$

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    leave them as auto, the HT speed really isn't a bottleneck, you won't really get any extra performance form different speeds, just concentrate on the main ht for between the cpu and mcp (sounds like they've named it differently on your board), the last time i used an nforce/amd board i used 16 16 wth out a problem.

    Download CPU-z and take a look at what that tells you, these will be accurate, it'll tell you cpu speed, mem speed, ht speed and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
    leave them as auto, the HT speed really isn't a bottleneck, you won't really get any extra performance form different speeds, just concentrate on the main ht for between the cpu and mcp (sounds like they've named it differently on your board), the last time i used an nforce/amd board i used 16 16 wth out a problem.

    Download CPU-z and take a look at what that tells you, these will be accurate, it'll tell you cpu speed, mem speed, ht speed and so on.

    ok thanks, could you clairify what you used to put on 16 16? Nforce to Nvidia OR LDT to Geforce . The only one i can put on auto is LDT to Geforce , and when i put it on auto EVEREST tells me my Hypertransport clock is at 1300Mhz. Is that too high> because i can change it to around 1000Mhz by changing the LDT to geforce to 800 instead of auto.

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    if it doesn't crash after a few hours of prime don't worry. the reason when you leave it at auto it shows 1300 MHz is because auto is 5 times the base clock, so if you weren't overclocking it would be 5 * 200 = 1000 MHz, but as your using a 260 MHz base clock it's 260 * 5 = 1300 Mhz. , when you use the 800 setting that is 4x base clock, 4 * 260 = 1040 Mhz.

    Running it at 1040 is probably the best idea on this board but it could potentially do 1300 (not saying it will though), the foxconn i tested recently could do over 1500 MHz. The HT settings are the least important though, as long as its around 1000 MHz or higher you will be fine, the only time you need to worry is if you were running at 600 MHz etc, then i'd say raise it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
    if it doesn't crash after a few hours of prime don't worry. the reason when you leave it at auto it shows 1300 MHz is because auto is 5 times the base clock, so if you weren't overclocking it would be 5 * 200 = 1000 MHz, but as your using a 260 MHz base clock it's 260 * 5 = 1300 Mhz. , when you use the 800 setting that is 4x base clock, 4 * 260 = 1040 Mhz.

    Running it at 1040 is probably the best idea on this board but it could potentially do 1300 (not saying it will though), the foxconn i tested recently could do over 1500 MHz. The HT settings are the least important though, as long as its around 1000 MHz or higher you will be fine, the only time you need to worry is if you were running at 600 MHz etc, then i'd say raise it.

    your smart lol^^^

    thanks for putting up with me lol. Glad i found out i need to keep an eye out for the Hypertransport speed. So now i know you have to watch the cpu temp, ram frequencys,and hypertransport clock
    and theres no limit to how high i can go as long as i keep the temp and volts at the rite levels. Right...lol

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