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    i have some platinum xtc ddr2- 1000mhz ram but as you all know amds only support up to 800mhz i know there is a way to overclock it so i can take full advantage of the extra 200mhz im not able to use. But i have no idea where to start or what I am supposed to look at to start reading up on how to do that. Can some one help point me in the right direction

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    same memory as me

    It's not necessarily a good idea to aim for 500 MHz at the sacrifice of tight timings, but here's what you need to do for this.

    you will need to get a little familar with your bios and then set a few things up accordingly. You need to set your memory to 800 and then change the HTT from 200 to 250.

    on making this small change, you will have bumped your memory speed to 500MHZ (DDR1000) but also increased your CPU speed from 2.0 GHz to 2.5 GHz.

    There's two voltages you may need to increase to maintain stabilty, though if your lucky you might not need to change either. These are the CPU voltage for your CPU, which may need a small increase because its now running at 2.5 GHz, and your memory voltage (now running at 500MHz.

    You most certainly should be able to run your system like this without problem, but you need to do this right and slowly, don't choose 250 right from the start, work your way up to this incrementally, so start with 210, go into windows, test with orthos prime to make sures its stable, then try 220, then 230 and so on.

    If at any time it fails, increase the volatge for the CPU a little, do not go higher than 1.5V, if this has no affect, assume the memory is at fault, so revert the CPU voltage tweaks back to where it was before you changed it and up the memory voltage. Without a fan over the memory, don't go higher than 2.0V, with a fan you can goto 2.3V without problems.

    the aim of the game here is to use the lowest voltages possible to give stabilty at your required overclock, so don't just throw on the volts and stop there, try and find the lowest volts that keep the system stable.

    Hope that helps, any questions just post

    *EDIT* one important part i missed, you will need to change your HT link to 4 instead of 5 to maintain system stabilty and if you have any settings saying "spectrum" disable them all, look through all the menus in the bios for these.
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    few question would my system run better to tighten my timings instead of increasing the speed? i havent changed timings at all cuz i though it would be better to get the full speed but since the ram is only running at 800 mhz

    oh and im not sure if this was a mistake my processor runs at 2.4ghz not 2.0 so if i do this would it increase my speed to 2.9 cuz my aim for overclocking is 3ghz even atleast

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    ooops' i read it as you having a 3800+ when you have a 4600+, sorry about that. With thi CPU, if you don't decrease the multiplier you'll be running 3.0 GHz, but my own 4600+ from a while back only got to about 2.9GHz with 1.55V through it, so you're going to have to be lucky here

    Take it slow and keep an eye on your volts.

    As for tight timings vs frequency, I like to run at 3-3-3-9 but with the mem we have its difficult at anything above 800 MHz. Bes tto do things one step at a time, try and get the most out of your CPU before looking at getting the memory running as fast a spossible, so for now leave them at 5-5-5.

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    i'm not sure how true this is, but i read some review / benchmark about timings on ddr2 and athlons. thing is, timing don't matter much for athlons. by the tests made the tighter timings had very little or no effect at all. the real speed increase comes from the.. ehem.. increasing the speed ( mhz )
    i could try to find that article if you want, but it was long ago.. (several months back)

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    that surprises me as the low latency onboard memory controller on Athlons usually likes tight timings, but i'm basing this on DDR and s939, not AM2 and DDR2 so things could have changed.

    I've read a few bits and pieces about Intel liking MHz over timings though, but its not 100% conclusive, best thing to do is to erk out all the performance you can with tight timings, bench it and then try it with looser timing but high MHz, bench that and choose the one that's faster, want to test your AMD rig fulfo?

    I'm going to test my C2D rig at the very least to see what i can find out.

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    nah.. i've got things to do... no time...

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    well i have no work tonight so im gonna screw around on my computer all night , the crosshair has temp sensors u can attach any where u please so im going to stick them on my ram so if it starts to overheat my pc will freak out and tell me

    I really hope i dont kill my pc tonight

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    only was able to get it up to 210 once i went to 220 windows wouldnt boot but ill give the voltage a go now im only going to raise it .05 at a time is that a good idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr35h View Post
    only was able to get it up to 210 once i went to 220 windows wouldnt boot but ill give the voltage a go now im only going to raise it .05 at a time is that a good idea?
    yes good idea ive been raising myn i think .01 at a time im at 1.38 atm i think my oc'ing is done for now rams got des. timings 4-4-4-12 i managed to get them down to 3-3-3-9 but i got no preformance boost so i put them back 920mhz is good for me but as for the voltages it makes the **** get really hot:mad:

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    yea thats what im really worried about im probably going hold off on raising voltage to my ram till i get a cooler for them. I am planning watercooling but im at a loss to what to get for it

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    youve got some high quality ram thow so i think you could overvolt to 2.2 without any issues

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    i cant get it over 210, i upped the voltage to 1.35 to the processor and it still wont boot so i took the voltage back to normal for now im going to try the ram but i dont know what the default voltage is

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    ok try this from a different angle, put your multiplair to 10, this will lower the CPU speed so as you head up higher the CPU won't be a bottleneck.

    10x220 is 2.2GHz, so now if you can't boot at 220 its something other than the CPU. Have you had a look for those spread spectrum settings? unless you disable those you'll have a tough time getting past 220.

    Put 2.0V on the RAM and for testing purposes 2.2V won't do any harm, i run 2.25V 24/7 with a fan over it. If you have any fan at all, try and get it over the memory, that's all i do, you don't need anything extreme, just some airflow to keep it a little cool, but like i said, for testing and messing around you can safely go to 2.2V without a fan.
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    kind of looked didnt see anything but ill give it another i want to overclock my cpu too so id rather not underclock it so i can my ram to work

    i want both of them too

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    probelm is, its quite difficult to know what the problem is unless you overclock each bit once at a time so when the problem arises you know whats caused it. then you hsve a good idea of the limits of each part and can aim your settings accordingly

    if you underclock the cpu for now and try 220 and it works, you know it was the cpu holding you back, if you try 667 on the memory for now and try 220 and it works, chances are your problem was the ram and then you know to up the volts where applicable.

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