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    Hi everybody,I am using this Ram on a Crosshair III & 955 C3
    Need help tweaking the ram as my mobo Bios is very complicated,Please point out what values I can change for better ram performance.I am running 8GB CL8 ram kit,timing is 8-8-8-24-2T as stated on box.

    DRAM Command rate 2T
    DRAM 1st information 8-8-8-2436-8-5
    TCL [8CLK]TRCD[8CLK]TRP[8CLK]TRAS[24CLK]TRTP[Auto]TRC[36CLK]TWR[8CLK]TRRD[Auto]
    DRAM 2nd information 6-2-6-3-4-0-110
    TRWTTO[Auto]TWRRD[Auto]TWTR[Auto]TWRWR[Auto]TRDRD[Auto]TRFC0[Auto]TRFC1[Auto]TREF[Auto]
    Drv 1.5x-1.5x-1.5x-1.5x-1.0x-1.0x-60ohms DCT0:CKE drive strength[Auto]DCT0:CS/ODT drive strength[Auto]DCT0:ADDR/CMD drive strength[Auto]DCT0:MEMCLK drive strength[Auto]DCT0ata drive strength[Auto]DCT0QS Drive strength[Auto]DCT0:Processor ODT[Auto]

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    actually, those timings are nice considering the speed (1866)

    how much voltage is in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan View Post
    actually, those timings are nice considering the speed (1866)

    how much voltage is in it?
    1.65V,as the ram indicates,What does DRAM 2nd information commands do and should I adjust it or just leave it?no idea what they do.I can only understand the DRAM 1st information Commands
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    2nd information is beyond my understanding, but i will say that ive never heard of anyone tweaking 2nd information for improved performance. ram overclocking doesnt have the same yields as cpu overclocking, for sure.

    id just play with the first set of timings

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan View Post
    2nd information is beyond my understanding, but i will say that ive never heard of anyone tweaking 2nd information for improved performance. ram overclocking doesnt have the same yields as cpu overclocking, for sure.

    id just play with the first set of timings
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    if you are tunning stock timings, I would not get so complcated. Tightening the timings will not give a noticable gain. Leave em where they are at.

    If you want to try to tighten them. Go to 1t on command rate and run memtest or a stress test in windows. If you pass try 7 on the 1st line and do the same. If you pass take the second line and tighten it. Run a stress test. It kinda goes like that in short terms. If you do not pass at 7 on the 1st line, leave it at 8 and then tighten the second line ot 7. If you fail, your stock timings is as good as it gets.

    I truely think you tend to compicate things a little though. Asus does not make the bios, companies like American Megatrend do. The bios' are pretty similiar on every motherboard as far as memory timings so I do not understand where it gets complicated. You just need a litttle more experience in overclocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    if you are tunning stock timings, I would not get so complcated. Tightening the timings will not give a noticable gain. Leave em where they are at.

    If you want to try to tighten them. Go to 1t on command rate and run memtest or a stress test in windows. If you pass try 7 on the 1st line and do the same. If you pass take the second line and tighten it. Run a stress test. It kinda goes like that in short terms. If you do not pass at 7 on the 1st line, leave it at 8 and then tighten the second line ot 7. If you fail, your stock timings is as good as it gets.

    I truely think you tend to compicate things a little though. Asus does not make the bios, companies like American Megatrend do. The bios' are pretyy similiar on every motherboard as far as memory timings so I do not understand where it gets complicated. You just need a litttle more experience in overclocking.
    I compared with MSI 790FX-GD70 bios & its a completely different story,what I shown here is only 1/3 of all available mem settings in bios,under extreme tweaker,if u wanna see the full settings i can post it upI will try what u suggested
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff73 View Post
    I compared with MSI 790FX-GD70 bios & its a completely different story,what I shown here is only 1/3 of all available mem settings in bios,under extreme tweaker,if u wanna see the full settings i can post it upI will try what u suggested
    The only ones you have to worry about is the ones listed on stock (for instance) 8/8/8/24/2T. like mentioned above and for the third time Biff, tighter memory timings mean little for performance. If your overclocked at stock and its stable... just leave it. It may mean a little if you are benchmarking HWBOT and want a slighly better score in benchmarking. For instance, I am 12 points short of 28,000 points in 3DMark06. It may mean 12 points.... thats it. Then again it may not help. Timings are funny and if you tighten them too much, your memory becomes unstable and worthless IMO. Its not like your memory is cas 7. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I would concentrate getting oyour overclock higher. That will give more performance and that may mean lowering frequency and/or timings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    The only ones you have to worry about is the ones listed on stock (for instance) 8/8/8/24/2T. like mentioned above and for the third time Biff, tighter memory timings mean little for performance. If your overclocked at stock and its stable... just leave it. It may mean a little if you are benchmarking HWBOT and want a slighly better score in benchmarking. For instance, I am 12 points short of 28,000 points in 3DMark06. It may mean 12 points.... thats it. Then again it may not help. Timings are funny and if you tighten them too much, your memory becomes unstable and worthless IMO. Its not like your memory is cas 7.
    Exactly,my memory will run at 7-7-7-24 timings,but not 7-7-7-20 timings,but somehow it runs better at 8-8-8-24,so I just leave it at that,anyway I will take your advise & forget about the complicated bios,thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff73 View Post
    Exactly,my memory will run at 7-7-7-24 timings,but not 7-7-7-20 timings,but somehow it runs better at 8-8-8-24,so I just leave it at that,anyway I will take your advise & forget about the complicated bios,thanks.
    If you can get it to 7/7/7/24 thats good and i can't understand how it runs "better" you need to explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    If you can get it to 7/7/7/24 thats good and i can't understand how it runs "better" you need to explain.
    It runs slightly higher scores in benchmarks at 8-8-8-24,but lower scores at 7-7-7-24,thats what I mean by better
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