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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    Quote Originally Posted by Irocing View Post
    Agree,

    Planning to get a nice Cheap, Used 17" LCD on Craig's List that will set in allocated space next to the rig
    and just use it for Apps, benching, ect.

    Vid Card comes first.
    Eye-Infinity/3d Surround, Jury's still out.

    Do you use Portrait mode on your 2nd monitor??

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    I use two monitors in landscape. One is a 27 and the other a 24. Can get four fullsized pages across them if I want. Also have a couple old 15s laying around that I may put to use, but right now I'm running a single monitor until I put my 7970 underwater. Multimonitor equals massive GPU heat.
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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    Quote Originally Posted by Solara2xb View Post
    For Eyefinity or surround you have to make sure to have displays that have the thin bezel, I have the asus LED displays that have the 1/3" bezel all around.
    I also have my displays set-up to wrap and not straight accross. Its hard to see all 3 displays unless you have them angled properly. I had at hard time adjusting mine to the right angle. Took a little playing around with, But I have is mounted on a XFX stand which helped with making the adjustments.

    But like Sam said, it does heat up the cards. Which is why i had my GPUs under water. on the stock cooler my 6950 heat up to about 80c at full load... But on water I don't hit more then 50c under load now..
    Haven't tried thin bezel, but I can see where that would make a big difference. Can't afford new monitors right now and wouldn't do eyefinity until my card is underwater anyway.
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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    Quote Originally Posted by Solara2xb View Post
    For Eyefinity or surround you have to make sure to have displays that have the thin bezel, I have the asus LED displays that have the 1/3" bezel all around.
    I also have my displays set-up to wrap and not straight accross. Its hard to see all 3 displays unless you have them angled properly. I had at hard time adjusting mine to the right angle. Took a little playing around with, But I have is mounted on a XFX stand which helped with making the adjustments.

    But like Sam said, it does heat up the cards. Which is why i had my GPUs under water. on the stock cooler my 6950 heat up to about 80c at full load... But on water I don't hit more then 50c under load now..
    Thanks,

    From what I researched if I go the Nvidia way, Not going to block it as they run cooler and voltage control pretty much
    taken out of the mix, Until I SLI it later down the road if need to.
    Raising the voltage as on my present cards raises the heat factor.

    If I decide the 4 gig 680 doesn't bring anything to the table and 256 bus stays the same, May just go for a top line Non-Ref 7970
    and Overvolt and OC the H--l out of it.

    Waiting for the (Proven) Benches, No hear say, Or Fan boy input.
    To me visual is the biggest part of this Sport.

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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    This is the display that I would want for multiple screens,........

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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    This is the display that I would want for multiple screens,........

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    The 2nd one, NO BEZELS.

    Whats your intrest rate on large loans

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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    This is the display that I would want for multiple screens,........

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    Uhhhh HOLY COW!!!

    What monitor is that without in #2 and #3?

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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    those are sweet monitors but for a over 1k a piece.. no thanks.. lolz.. it would be nice to have it I had unlimited money or money tree growing in my back yard. lolz...

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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    They are all of the same screens. The top is taken with a fish-eye lens, but it shows three of them together in a racing game.
    The second shows the curvature of the screens, and the third shows what it's like looking at it straight on from the front. They have a way to compensate for the curvature and eliminate distortion.

    Yeah they're expensive but they're cool too.

    Find them here.

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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    The Sapphire 6950 only hits 59C after an hour of BF3 with dual monitors just saying... >.>

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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    Don't mind Jim [ doc jr] he has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to Nvidia cards, you can run 3 monitors with Nvidia, in fact 4 but not in surround

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    Default Re: Eyefinity vs Nvidia Surround

    A few comments:

    -Bezels do matter, but if they're sufficiently thin (normal) then you won't notice them after awhile. Your brain will simply start to "skip" over the bezel. Just like watching a movie with subtitles, after awhile into the movie you won't realize you're reading while watching......until you catch yourself, then you notice.

    -AMD has been FAR better than Nvidia for multi-monitor setups with Eyefinity, with the ability to run 3 (or more) screens off a single card. Until now. Nvidia always needed SLI to run 3 screens. However, the GTX 680 can FINALLY run multiple screens off one card. But only the GTX 680. Presumably more Kepler cards will have this ability, but they're not released yet, so if you want a triple setup right now, then either get a GTX 680 or go with a Radeon card.

    -AMD vs Nvidia horsepower depends on which card you get. A GTX 680 will beat anything, but availability is scarce. Also consider the memory size, buffer, etc. 2GB won't cut it. You'll need 3GB for sure for such extreme resolutions.

    -The GTX 680 is far more advanced in terms of features, power and temperature control, etc, when compared, say, to a Radeon 7970. See my GTX 680 review for further detailed info on those features and results.

    -If you want to play in 3D, Nvidia is better, hands down. Better interface, better tech, better game support.

    -Lastly, don't bother trying to game on 2 screens. Might as well go for a root canal. The reason is the bezel will be in the middle, which will line up perfectly with the center of any game. FPS games will especially be utterly unplayable because your brain will think it's aiming at the bezel, not the screen. So either go with 1 screen or 3 screens. If you game with 3 screens it takes some getting used to for a few reasons. First, even though some games support such wide resolutions, there's almost always distortions the further you look at the screens from the center. So the far edges on the side monitors will look wonky in game. Usually. There are some exceptions. Further, if you play FPS games, there's a good chance you may get dizzy from the extremely fast movements in your peripheral vision. That doesn't make for a smooth feeling so close to your eyes. If you play MMO or RTS games, there's less fast movement, so those types of games will be easier on the eyes and allow you to see FAR more on the screen. Lastly, if you play FPS games on 3 screens, you'd think it would give you an advantage because you can see more, right? Wrong. The problem is that your eyes' field of vision is less than the screen coverage, which means most of what's displayed on the screens will be in your peripheral vision. And peripheral vision cannot physically distinguish detail. Only movement. Which means that you will not actually see what's going on in the side monitors, so you'll have to physically turn your head to see what's on the side screens. While this may be more "immersive", it's not terribly practical. Couple this with the distortion on the side monitors I noted above, and the effect is........weird. Perspectives will be shifting and warping constantly, in and out, side to side, across all 3 screens as you move and look around. Not only can this muck with your brain, you'll be dead faster in FPS games. The perspective on one screen doesn't warp like this, so you'll actually be more responsive. One screen with a really large resolution (ie- 30" with 2560x1920) is more practical and accurate for FPS games, and you'll do better.

    HOWEVER, nothing beats 3 widescreens for multi-tasking. There's so much visual real estate that you can have so many applications and things running simultaneously. If I could figure out a way to mount my fourth monitor somehow, I would. But for now, I'm stuck with only 3 screens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    But for now, I'm stuck with only 3 screens
    You poor soul,.......LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguy View Post
    A few comments:

    -Bezels do matter, but if they're sufficiently thin (normal) then you won't notice them after awhile. Your brain will simply start to "skip" over the bezel. Just like watching a movie with subtitles, after awhile into the movie you won't realize you're reading while watching......until you catch yourself, then you notice.

    -AMD has been FAR better than Nvidia for multi-monitor setups with Eyefinity, with the ability to run 3 (or more) screens off a single card. Until now. Nvidia always needed SLI to run 3 screens. However, the GTX 680 can FINALLY run multiple screens off one card. But only the GTX 680. Presumably more Kepler cards will have this ability, but they're not released yet, so if you want a triple setup right now, then either get a GTX 680 or go with a Radeon card.

    -AMD vs Nvidia horsepower depends on which card you get. A GTX 680 will beat anything, but availability is scarce. Also consider the memory size, buffer, etc. 2GB won't cut it. You'll need 3GB for sure for such extreme resolutions.

    -The GTX 680 is far more advanced in terms of features, power and temperature control, etc, when compared, say, to a Radeon 7970. See my GTX 680 review for further detailed info on those features and results.

    -If you want to play in 3D, Nvidia is better, hands down. Better interface, better tech, better game support.

    -Lastly, don't bother trying to game on 2 screens. Might as well go for a root canal. The reason is the bezel will be in the middle, which will line up perfectly with the center of any game. FPS games will especially be utterly unplayable because your brain will think it's aiming at the bezel, not the screen. So either go with 1 screen or 3 screens. If you game with 3 screens it takes some getting used to for a few reasons. First, even though some games support such wide resolutions, there's almost always distortions the further you look at the screens from the center. So the far edges on the side monitors will look wonky in game. Usually. There are some exceptions. Further, if you play FPS games, there's a good chance you may get dizzy from the extremely fast movements in your peripheral vision. That doesn't make for a smooth feeling so close to your eyes. If you play MMO or RTS games, there's less fast movement, so those types of games will be easier on the eyes and allow you to see FAR more on the screen. Lastly, if you play FPS games on 3 screens, you'd think it would give you an advantage because you can see more, right? Wrong. The problem is that your eyes' field of vision is less than the screen coverage, which means most of what's displayed on the screens will be in your peripheral vision. And peripheral vision cannot physically distinguish detail. Only movement. Which means that you will not actually see what's going on in the side monitors, so you'll have to physically turn your head to see what's on the side screens. While this may be more "immersive", it's not terribly practical. Couple this with the distortion on the side monitors I noted above, and the effect is........weird. Perspectives will be shifting and warping constantly, in and out, side to side, across all 3 screens as you move and look around. Not only can this muck with your brain, you'll be dead faster in FPS games. The perspective on one screen doesn't warp like this, so you'll actually be more responsive. One screen with a really large resolution (ie- 30" with 2560x1920) is more practical and accurate for FPS games, and you'll do better.

    HOWEVER, nothing beats 3 widescreens for multi-tasking. There's so much visual real estate that you can have so many applications and things running simultaneously. If I could figure out a way to mount my fourth monitor somehow, I would. But for now, I'm stuck with only 3 screens
    Good Write up!!! I couldn't have said it any better!

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