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    Default Dell 2405 FPW Showing it's age?

    I've had this Dell 2505 FPW ever since it was on MaximumPC's Best of the Best list. For the past year or so, I've been getting this black line or lines in a few of my games, such as, Skyrim, Rage, and a few others. Sometimes it would wrap its self around an object or a corpse or something like that. Before, it would happen only once in a while, but recently, while playing Dragon Age 2,(getting ready for Inquisition), it happens a lot. Most of the time it happens when my field of view is straight ahead, if I look at the ground it only happens rarely. Last night it started to freak out. I haven't had the chance to see if it's this bad on some of the other games yet. My drivers are up to date and this started before the last 2 updates, so, I doubt that's problem, but you never know. I know what the quick fix is, but that's not an option right now.

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    Default Re: Dell 2405 FPW Showing it's age?

    sounds like a grafix card or driver
    possable to swap that out or no?
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    Default Re: Dell 2405 FPW Showing it's age?

    Quote Originally Posted by calemus View Post
    sounds like a grafix card or driver
    possable to swap that out or no?
    I'm with calemus on that. Usually a monitor will have a continuous pattern with a line or dots etc. that stays in the same spot regardless of the game or desktop. Seeing as how this is happening in a game, could be signs of your card going out.

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    Default Re: Dell 2405 FPW Showing it's age?

    As Josh stated below Lines or missing pixels is the monitor. What you have sounds like a GPU failure or a driver problem. You can find out for sure by doing a complete uninstall and driver scrub then install drivers that are at least 3 versions behind the current. If it goes away then it is driver related. If it is still there you have a GPU issue. Where you trying to overclock the memory or your GPU in the past?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    As Josh stated below Lines or missing pixels is the monitor. What you have sounds like a GPU failure or a driver problem. You can find out for sure by doing a complete uninstall and driver scrub then install drivers that are at least 3 versions behind the current. If it goes away then it is driver related. If it is still there you have a GPU issue. Where you trying to overclock the memory or your GPU in the past?
    I went ahead and installed Catalyst 13.9 64bit and all seems normal, but, my daughter was using my DA 2, so I wasn't able to test it there. I did play some RAGE 64bit version and had a recurring issue come up there. I keep the settings at base except for the resolution which is set at 1920x1200. Everything runs without a problem. According to my GOverlay LCD, temps are between the low 50's and low 60's, mostly in the 50's though, fps ranges from high 30's to high 60's. After about 45 min to an hour here comes "stutterville"! At that point I save, and have to fully exit the game, then, re-start the game and all is well for the usual for time frame. Is there something for gfx that is like Prime95 to cpu and mem? I do have Unigine Heaven and Valley, and the free version of Catzilla. Almost forgot, no overclock except what came from the factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystikhol9 View Post
    I went ahead and installed Catalyst 13.9 64bit and all seems normal, but, my daughter was using my DA 2, so I wasn't able to test it there. I did play some RAGE 64bit version and had a recurring issue come up there. I keep the settings at base except for the resolution which is set at 1920x1200. Everything runs without a problem. According to my GOverlay LCD, temps are between the low 50's and low 60's, mostly in the 50's though, fps ranges from high 30's to high 60's. After about 45 min to an hour here comes "stutterville"! At that point I save, and have to fully exit the game, then, re-start the game and all is well for the usual for time frame. Is there something for gfx that is like Prime95 to cpu and mem? I do have Unigine Heaven and Valley, and the free version of Catzilla. Almost forgot, no overclock except what came from the factory.

    Very strange. You didn't mention the stuttering before so I take it this is a new problem. Correct?

    Lines in the Video-Changed Driver Problem went away. Solved Driver issue. Correct?
    New problem?- Stuttering? Came with Older Driver to fix Lines in video problem. Caused by old driver? Remove and move up one driver version. Check CPU temp and System Memory Utilization when stuttering begans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberburnout View Post
    Very strange. You didn't mention the stuttering before so I take it this is a new problem. Correct?

    Lines in the Video-Changed Driver Problem went away. Solved Driver issue. Correct?
    New problem?- Stuttering? Came with Older Driver to fix Lines in video problem. Caused by old driver? Remove and move up one driver version. Check CPU temp and System Memory Utilization when stuttering begans.

    GPU Stress tool, use MSI Kombustor
    Well, its been a little busy today, so, first of all, that MSI Kombustor is a great tool! I took me a while to find which test would simulate the conditions surrounding my "glich". So here's what I used -

    Preset 1080 (1920x1080 FS AA4x MSAA)
    Tessellated Sphere's x64
    Lakes of Titan v1 x64
    HDR + Shadows + DoF v1
    GPU Memory Burner (2048)

    I started with the Plasma because it was the first one I saw, I was very surprised how something so simple could generate temps from the mid 50's to cap at 61c, (it settled at high 50's). Oh, before I forget again, the stutter I had completely forgot about. I went back to Catalyst 14.9 and after about 3 hours no more stutter. When I read your suggestion, I went ahead and rolled back to Cat. 13.12 and tried to start Kombustor 3 times, BSOD 3 times. 14.4 and 14.9 ran the same so I stayed at 14.9 for the tests. I chose the tests above, because they ran nearly the same in terms of fps and heat. Frame rate ran between mid 30's to low 60's, heat stayed pretty much between 58 - 62c. All showed some kind of hiccup, however, the tessellated sphere's brought out the lines. They weren't the black lines like in the game's, but more like what you would see on the old CRT's. They would pop in and scroll some and then pop out again, and sometimes 2 or 3 at a time. Something a little odd was happening with my ping. GOverlay LCD shows, among other things, your systems ping rate (hope I said that right). For the past week it was staying pretty much in the 50's at all times, in or out of gaming. After messing with the drivers, it's back to normal, which is between 5 and 20

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