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    Got Win 7 64 bit Pro & a Kingston 128GB SSD


    Nothing but hassels so far - will try redoing it with changes in bios to AHCI

    So far Win 7 disc boots to install wallpaper screen - then hangs
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    Yeah, chech that AHCI is enabled. Barring that, test your ram. I've had an install hang before, and that was ram related.

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    RAM is fine

    I changed to AHCI - no luck Win 7 disc won't load past wallpaper screen

    Changed it back to prev setting

    Now system hangs & normal HDD won't boot - BLUE SCREEN & reboot loop

    Sure wish I had just done a Win 7 load on a Velociraptor HDD

    This 80+ pound monster will now have to go into the shop - DAMN !!
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    Well - I kept putting the bios back to IDE then F10 to save
    - but it would keep crashing & reverting to AHCI

    Finally after 5 attempts the IDE now stays in Bios settings

    Unless I can get a way to fix this I will trade the SSD for the VelociRaptor

    EDIT: My regular HDD now loads to desktop normally
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougofthenorth View Post
    Well - I kept putting the bios back to IDE then F10 to save
    - but it would keep crashing & reverting to AHCI

    Finally after 5 attempts the IDE now stays in Bios settings

    Unless I can get a way to fix this I will trade the SSD for the VelociRaptor

    EDIT: My regular HDD now loads to desktop normally
    If your HDs support it, AHCI gives you NCQ (native command queuing) which allows you to hot-swap. It should also give you better performance with the SSD.

    I assume you're doing a fresh install onto the SSD and not copying a drive image?

    You can try disconnecting all your HDs, and installing onto the lone SSD. Also note that some BIOSes have multiple places to set AHCI/IDE/RAID. Mine has three different controllers (main SATA, addl. controller, and e-SATA) so each one has a setting.

    And, believe me, there is no comparison to the velociraptor as an O/S drive, if the SSD is setup correctly. It's all about the Benjami... I mean access time, LOL!

    Edit: here's a thread about something similar:

    All drives attached to the same SATA controller will normally have to run in the same mode. If a motherboard has more than one SATA controller it will usually used different colours on the SATA ports connected to each one to distinguish between them.

    If you set the BIOS to AHCI mode, attach the SSD, and install Windows 7 onto it, then you'll be able to attach your old drive and read it without any problems even if it was used in IDE mode previously. Changing the mode doesn't do anything to the drive contents - the only issue is that the OS needs to have the right drivers in order to talk to the drive.
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    +1/ I love my veloci-raptors in raid0 but I am drooling to get a good SDD.

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    Tx for the replies - I tried everything I could find & no luck

    I am now trying it on a Velociraptor 600GB 32Mg cache

    will update
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    Well - I'm up & running fine - the Bell U998 usb stick sure works great for i-net
    - I was getting speeds of up to 360Kbps! - that's triple the Lincsat.
    This is the 1st time I gave it a good workout.

    I dread re-installing my Steam client & games though - that will sure take time!
    Were talking GIGS here!!!

    I almost "had the same problem" intalling Win 7 to the HDD
    - the install got to the point of the wallpaper & the mouse cursor then - it seemed to "hang" again for what seemd like an extremely long time

    I was going to abort & give up - but noticed the BR drive light gave a brief flicker - then a load screen appeared & the install continued, but with the mouse cursor twirling when things were loading.

    Hmmm - I wonder if I waited longer for the SSD install.....

    Having a progress bar would have solved the "wait & see"

    All my demountable drives work again as they did - I'd rather use HDD's for now
    - I hate being in the Bios & mashing buttons.
    I'm smart enough to know what I don't know...

    I like that Virtual PC for XP mode - it's fun!

    Ghost 14 appears not to be supported by Win 7 though.
    HP 2605dn laser colour printer may not work either...
    But this is my Game drive not my Work drive

    Tx a million for your replies folks !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougofthenorth View Post
    Well - I'm up & running fine - the Bell U998 usb stick sure works great for i-net
    - I was getting speeds of up to 360Kbps! - that's triple the Lincsat.
    This is the 1st time I gave it a good workout.
    Doug, I really commend you for being able to deal with such speeds. Out of curiosity, where do you live?

    I dread re-installing my Steam client & games though - that will sure take time!
    Were talking GIGS here!!!
    Forgive me if I'm being repetitive, but I still don't get why you don't just copy the games over from the previous hard drive. True, they won't be technically "installed" that way, but you can just do the "repair" option within Steam. That'll download a small amount of files instead of re-downloading the whole thing.

    I almost "had the same problem" intalling Win 7 to the HDD
    - the install got to the point of the wallpaper & the mouse cursor then - it seemed to "hang" again for what seemd like an extremely long time

    I was going to abort & give up - but noticed the BR drive light gave a brief flicker - then a load screen appeared & the install continued, but with the mouse cursor twirling when things were loading.

    Hmmm - I wonder if I waited longer for the SSD install.....

    Having a progress bar would have solved the "wait & see"
    It took me less than 10 minutes to install Windows 7 onto my SSD from a USB key. I would have suggested that had I known you were going to use the DVD as the install source (which takes considerably longer).

    I'm smart enough to know what I don't know...
    And that makes you smarter than most people! Although there is the 3rd category of blind-spots (i.e. "what you don't know that you don't know"). That one seems to bite me in the arse every once in a while.

    I like that Virtual PC for XP mode - it's fun!
    Isn't it? It makes me feel nostalgic for older games and such. However, you shouldn't use Virtual XP as a matter of course. If a program doesn't work in Win 7, try compatibility mode (in the properties for a program's shortcut, in the "compatibility" tab) for a given program first.

    Ghost 14 appears not to be supported by Win 7 though.
    Info. on ghost 14 and win 7 compatibility.

    HP 2605dn laser colour printer may not work either...
    Here's three forums with various ways of making it work:
    forum 1, forum 2, forum 3

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    Doug, I really commend you for being able to deal with such speeds. Out of curiosity, where do you live?

    -Obviously not close enough to you

    - see Google maps for Wilson Road, Clarence-Rockland, Ontario, Canada

    - BTW at one point I was getting 1.1MB/sec !!!
    - Still took ~ 8hrs to install it from Steam that was only for MW2 !!!!
    - Bell Turbo Stick kept kicking me out about every hour or so. Reminded me of dial up years ago when you would get pinged & kicked out if the PC did not respond.
    _ the overages for this OS change & install will cost me $50-$60 maybe more


    Forgive me if I'm being repetitive, but I still don't get why you don't just copy the games over from the previous hard drive. True, they won't be technically "installed" that way, but you can just do the "repair" option within Steam. That'll download a small amount of files instead of re-downloading the whole thing.

    - Tried that from my Steam backup files - no luck
    - Messages about "the cloud" ?? & "this game was played on another machine" - just wouldn't work


    It took me less than 10 minutes to install Windows 7 onto my SSD from a USB key. I would have suggested that had I known you were going to use the DVD as the install source (which takes considerably longer).

    - had no clue about a USB Key install

    And that makes you smarter than most people! Although there is the 3rd category of blind-spots (i.e. "what you don't know that you don't know"). That one seems to bite me in the arse every once in a while.

    - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johari_window

    Isn't it? It makes me feel nostalgic for older games and such. However, you shouldn't use Virtual XP as a matter of course. If a program doesn't work in Win 7, try compatibility mode (in the properties for a program's shortcut, in the "compatibility" tab) for a given program first.

    - will give it a try


    Info. on ghost 14 and win 7 compatibility.

    Here's three forums with various ways of making it work:
    forum 1, forum 2, forum 3

    - Tx - I will look into that & also see if Ghost 12 might work as some report - I have that as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougofthenorth View Post
    -Obviously not close enough to you
    - see Google maps for Wilson Road, Clarence-Rockland, Ontario, Canada
    I imagine that it's difficult to have proper broadband access in much of Canada as the population is so sparse across such a wide area of land...

    I see.. you're at a cul de sac with only a few houses by the water, 1 km away from Clarence and 5.5 km from Rockland East. Rockland seems to have enough houses to justify a decent broadband pipe, like DSL. Is there a local DSL or cable provider in your area? If you're too far from the CO/DSLAM for DSL, perhaps you could rent a microwave connection from Rockland, beamed straight to your house.

    And I get, ostensibly, 16 Mbit/sec down / 3 Mbps, although real world downloads are somewhat slower. My cap. is 250 GB per month, which I find plenty for my needs. Now, even metro areas in the U.S. have crappy broadband in comparison to such countries as S. Korea, so I guess its all a matter of perspective.

    - Tried that from my Steam backup files - no luck
    - Messages about "the cloud" ?? & "this game was played on another machine" - just wouldn't work
    Just to be clear we're on the same page, I'm talking about copying the entire Steam directory, including all files and all directories. Then, within the Steam interface and for each game, I did:
    Steam ->
    LIBRARY ->
    GAMES ->
    Right click game name (e.g. Half-Life 2), left click on Properties ->
    LOCAL FILES ->
    Left-click on "VERIFY INTEGRITY OF GAME CACHE"

    That's how I copied Steam to my new PC.


    - had no clue about a USB Key install
    I can give you the step-by-step instructions on how to do it if you're interested.

    Fascinating! I knew about Myers-Brigg but not this one.

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    Installing from USB is sooooooooo much bloody faster. I only use the USB method now.

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    A step by step USB install guide would be great!

    "Is there a local DSL or cable provider in your area? If you're too far from the CO/DSLAM for DSL, perhaps you could rent a microwave connection from Rockland, beamed straight to your house."

    - There is a subdivision being built off the SW corner of my acreage. I am paying to run in a DSL cable, across a 100' ravine & under a stream!

    I am suurounded by trees some 135' tall & 21/2 feet in diamenter. See the last house on Wilson using the satelitte view, you will see my problem.
    I even had a site survey done & no signal from any provider is available (except the Bell usb stick).
    Even a repeater won't work, or a 125' tower which is $10K+!
    So you see, that I need a hardwired connection solution.


    RE: "Just to be clear we're on the same page, I'm talking about copying the entire Steam directory, including all files and all directories. Then, within the Steam interface and for each game, I did:
    Steam ->
    LIBRARY ->
    GAMES ->
    Right click game name (e.g. Half-Life 2), left click on Properties ->
    LOCAL FILES ->
    Left-click on "VERIFY INTEGRITY OF GAME CACHE"
    That's how I copied Steam to my new PC."

    -With my old XP game drive attached as a slave??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougofthenorth View Post
    A step by step USB install guide would be great!p
    Here ya go -

    1) Download the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool from Microsoft.
    2) Convert the Windows 7 DVD to an .ISO using a program like imgburn.
    3) Insert a USB key of 4GB or more into your computer; it will be formatted so remove everything important off of it.
    4) Run the Microsoft tool on the .ISO you created. It will make the USB bootable and put the Windows install onto it.
    5) Use that USB to install Windows just like off of a DVD, except much faster. Obviously, the USB key needs to be the first drive in the BIOS boot list for this to work.

    Any further questions, esp. on addl steps for an install to a SSD, let me know.


    There is a subdivision being built off the SW corner of my acreage. I am paying to run in a DSL cable, across a 100' ravine & under a stream!
    "Over the river, and through the woods, to Dougofthenorth's house we go"... LOL! That must be costing you a pretty penny!

    I am suurounded by trees some 135' tall & 21/2 feet in diamenter. See the last house on Wilson using the satelitte view, you will see my problem.
    I even had a site survey done & no signal from any provider is available (except the Bell usb stick).
    Even a repeater won't work, or a 125' tower which is $10K+!
    So you see, that I need a hardwired connection solution.
    Well, you could always cut down those damned tre.... just kidding!!

    -With my old XP game drive attached as a slave??
    Not necessarily. I followed the steps I mentioned earlier to copy completely the Steam directory from one computer to another (two different locations), and then ran the Steam repair for each game. Only a few minor files that Steam installs in the Windows directory were re-downloaded.
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    What's with all the horror stories installing SSDs?

    I'm in the process of getting one and do not want to go through this nightmare...

    I thought you just drop it in like a regular HDD and install your OS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil' Dead View Post
    What's with all the horror stories installing SSDs?

    I'm in the process of getting one and do not want to go through this nightmare...

    I thought you just drop it in like a regular HDD and install your OS
    It can be that way if you a) setup AHCI in your BIOS before you install Windows, and b) work with Windows 7 and c) make the SSD the only hard drive in your system until after Windows is installed. And a USB key install is done in 10 minutes flat. Windows 7 will do most of the optimizations for you, and PureOC's guide is simple and easy to follow as well. Or, you can use SSD Tweaker which is also super easy.

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