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    Default Linux For 2016

    Well, with Win-10 here now and looking like a somewhat decent upgrade, for now, I'm looking to do something different for 2016. I'm going to put together a Linux only system. Between now and then I need to learn as much as I can about Linux. Which distro should I use? It appears there are as many distro's as there are opinions. The only one I'm know anything about, (and that's not much), is Ubuntu. Since this will be for daily use, what would be the top choices for this. Also what utilities, apps, etc. to go with it. What should I be reading to learn more about Linux in order to handle some of the "little challenges" that might come up in the first few months use?

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    Default Re: Linux For 2016

    I used Mint for quite a while, and always preferred it to Ubuntu. They had a great support team and active users forum. Going back about a year I know there was a big shift to Mint among Linux users when Ubuntu became "too Windows-like". It's been a while since I have run Linux, but I would imagine that Mint is still worth a look as an alternative to Ubuntu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    It's been a while since I have run Linux, but I would imagine that Mint is still worth a look as an alternative to Ubuntu.
    ** THIS **

    Mint. Absolutely.

    I've run Mint on DarkMatter for over a year now, and frankly I absolutely love it. Mint does what an OS is meant to do. It runs the computer and stays the hell out of your way. It's rock solid and well updated. Current Mint releases are based on Ubuntu LTS. I've run it on Intel NUC's and my Quad Core i7, and its just fantastic.

    The best part of Mint (IMO) is that it is Ubuntu based (and thus Debian based), uses Apt-get, which I like and am familiar with, and has a fantastic support community. To me Mint and Arch are very similarly supported if that tells you anything. I also like the multiple options for GUI's (Cinnamon, Mate, XFCE spring to mind). There's also a Linux Mint Debian edition which uses Debian directly instead of Ubuntu.

    Downside? Well, if you're going to dual boot, make sure you get Win10 on the machine first, and THEN install Mint. After a week of trying, I've not managed to get 10 to install AFTER Mint, no matter what. In fact, I'm building a new machine just for 10 so I don't screw up my Mint configuration any more!

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    Default Re: Linux For 2016

    Mint, I use the cinnamon version, is on all of my computers apart from one on win7.

    It seems quite natural for a windows user and the graphical interface gives the ability to get stuff done while you learn the command line (which is often faster)

    I suspect that I shall not bother with win10 and all its personal information issues and move wholly to mint.

    On the security front I would mention Fatdog64 as it lives on a stick, runs wholly in memory and as such everything is lost on shutdown so great for browsing when travelling and anywhere there might be dodgy security issues. This has a very small ram requirement and once loaded is THE fastest os ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post

    Downside? Well, if you're going to dual boot, make sure you get Win10 on the machine first, and THEN install Mint. After a week of trying, I've not managed to get 10 to install AFTER Mint, no matter what. In fact, I'm building a new machine just for 10 so I don't screw up my Mint configuration any more!

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    Thanks for that bit of very important info!

    I typically use separate drives and the BIOS boot menu for my dual boot, but most people don't - so this is a huge fact to know going in.

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    [QUOTE=Gu3;208191]** THIS **

    Mint. Absolutely.

    I've run Mint on DarkMatter for over a year now, and frankly I absolutely love it. Mint does what an OS is meant to do. It runs the computer and stays the hell out of your way. It's rock solid and well updated. Current Mint releases are based on Ubuntu LTS. I've run it on Intel NUC's and my Quad Core i7, and its just fantastic.

    The best part of Mint (IMO) is that it is Ubuntu based (and thus Debian based), uses Apt-get, which I like and am familiar with, and has a fantastic support community. To me Mint and Arch are very similarly supported if that tells you anything. I also like the multiple options for GUI's (Cinnamon, Mate, XFCE spring to mind). There's also a Linux Mint Debian edition which uses Debian directly instead of Ubuntu.

    Downside? Well, if you're going to dual boot, make sure you get Win10 on the machine first, and THEN install Mint. After a week of trying, I've not managed to get 10 to install AFTER Mint, no matter what. In fact, I'm building a new machine just for 10 so I don't screw up my Mint configuration any more!

    S.[/

    My intent is to use Linux only, however, I'm wondering if it's better to have Windows in there also, just in case? Also, I noticed grumpydaddy mentioned use of the "command line". Under what circumstances is this used and how do I use it?

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    Most of the time you don't need to use the command line interface in fact you might never need it depending on what you use your computer for.

    A lot of linux users however become curious about what can be done this way and start to find that some things are quicker done using CLI

    The how part is straightforward enough....on the taskbar is an icon that is not dissimilar to what you see when typing cmd from windows start search box.

    If you remember dos then the same principle applies.... once you begin to learn one or two of the commands and how thing work in linux compared to windows things start to snowball
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Most of the time you don't need to use the command line interface in fact you might never need it depending on what you use your computer for.

    A lot of linux users however become curious about what can be done this way and start to find that some things are quicker done using CLI

    The how part is straightforward enough....on the taskbar is an icon that is not dissimilar to what you see when typing cmd from windows start search box.

    If you remember dos then the same principle applies.... once you begin to learn one or two of the commands and how thing work in linux compared to windows things start to snowball
    Excellent synopsis Grumpy!

    These days, Linux truly is friendly enough that you rarely NEED the shell. There are times, but typically, a search on Google will give you the correct command line to run, and you're off to the races. Ultimately though, to tinkerers like the vast majority of frequent posters here on PureOC, the command line is a bit like your favorite (pick your addiction)...you get just a taste, and you want more.

    The command line in Linux is incredibly powerful and in many cases much easier to use than GUI applications.

    To me, apt-get (which is essentially the Mint/Ubuntu/Debian "Windows Update") is amazing.

    For example:

    "apt-get update" Checks almost all installed software for updates by going out to the repositories and checking the versions. It then tells you what programs/libraries need to be updated.

    "apt-get upgrade" Takes the list from above, and does the upgrades.

    Done.

    Takes like a minute, and almost never requires a reboot of the running system (I can't think of a time when it has).

    On the other hand, Mint also ships with "Update Manager" which sits on the toolbar, and offers one-click upgrading.

    It's quite a leap to go from Windows to Linux cold turkey, but there are plenty of ways to still have Windows available to you.

    1. Dual boot. It works, and there are a number of options for handling it, but Linux is very dual boot friendly.

    2. Wine. Runs a lot of Windows program (mostly office type apps) in an emulated Windows environment. For the apps it fully supports, it's pretty cool. For the rest...not so much.

    3. VirtualBox (or similar programs) allow you to run a Virtual PC with a full version of Windows on an emulated PC (sorta kinda). Pretty nifty, and I use it a lot for certain web applications that (weirdly) won't run on Linux. It's a bit of a bear to get set up (for me anyway), and getting USB devices to read through to the virtual OS has not been something I've ever succeeded at.

    I'm far from a Linux expert, but I learn more every week, and in just a year, Linux has become my preferred main operating system. My only frustrations are primarily to do with Games, and useful software from the Windows world that just doesn't exist on Linux.

    On the other hand, I really don't need those billion tray apps that every vendor of Windows software foists on me. I don't have crapware. Viruses are exceedingly rare, and nobody forces "updates" down my throat automatically.

    Damn. I sound like an Linux Evangelist. *sorry*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    Thanks for that bit of very important info!

    I typically use separate drives and the BIOS boot menu for my dual boot, but most people don't - so this is a huge fact to know going in.
    Yeah, I had heard you needed to do it Windows first, then Linux, but I figured I was clever enough to get it to work without doing that.

    Short Story. Nope.

    Win 10 simply WILL NOT install on my machine with Linux already there. I think it really wants to be on the First Partition of the First Drive on the primary SATA controller. If you get it up and running, then managed to install Linux I'd be interested in hearing how it goes.

    I just deleted about a 5 page Venting Diatribe on my Win10 installation efforts...<grin>.

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    The other thing that seems to happen to Linux users is that after getting started then dabbling in the dark arts of the command line there is that "I wonder what that distro is like?" stage where you start considering those versions of linux that are more often used by "professionals" as their personal go to OS "Arch Linux" and "Scientific Linux" probably fall into this category.

    If users have a particular need for work being done such as Audio or Video then there are Linux variants out there that were designed specifically for this. AVLinux is an example

    Similar to the Fatdog64 I mentioned before one of the most secure versions is Tails. Designed for privacy and anonymity it forces all connection to be routed via Tor and all direct connections are blocked. This too is designed to run as a Live CD/usb stick so there are no 'traces' left on the hard drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    Excellent synopsis Grumpy!

    These days, Linux truly is friendly enough that you rarely NEED the shell. There are times, but typically, a search on Google will give you the correct command line to run, and you're off to the races. Ultimately though, to tinkerers like the vast majority of frequent posters here on PureOC, the command line is a bit like your favorite (pick your addiction)...you get just a taste, and you want more.

    The command line in Linux is incredibly powerful and in many cases much easier to use than GUI applications.

    To me, apt-get (which is essentially the Mint/Ubuntu/Debian "Windows Update") is amazing.

    For example:

    "apt-get update" Checks almost all installed software for updates by going out to the repositories and checking the versions. It then tells you what programs/libraries need to be updated.

    "apt-get upgrade" Takes the list from above, and does the upgrades.

    Done.

    Takes like a minute, and almost never requires a reboot of the running system (I can't think of a time when it has).

    On the other hand, Mint also ships with "Update Manager" which sits on the toolbar, and offers one-click upgrading.

    It's quite a leap to go from Windows to Linux cold turkey, but there are plenty of ways to still have Windows available to you.

    1. Dual boot. It works, and there are a number of options for handling it, but Linux is very dual boot friendly.

    2. Wine. Runs a lot of Windows program (mostly office type apps) in an emulated Windows environment. For the apps it fully supports, it's pretty cool. For the rest...not so much.

    3. VirtualBox (or similar programs) allow you to run a Virtual PC with a full version of Windows on an emulated PC (sorta kinda). Pretty nifty, and I use it a lot for certain web applications that (weirdly) won't run on Linux. It's a bit of a bear to get set up (for me anyway), and getting USB devices to read through to the virtual OS has not been something I've ever succeeded at.

    I'm far from a Linux expert, but I learn more every week, and in just a year, Linux has become my preferred main operating system. My only frustrations are primarily to do with Games, and useful software from the Windows world that just doesn't exist on Linux.

    On the other hand, I really don't need those billion tray apps that every vendor of Windows software foists on me. I don't have crapware. Viruses are exceedingly rare, and nobody forces "updates" down my throat automatically.

    Damn. I sound like an Linux Evangelist. *sorry*

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    Please, don't apologize, evangelize to your hearts content. This is exactly why I posted this. Obviously there is a lot to learn here. I'll be saving this stuff for future reference. Now I've heard about how secure Linux is, however, I believe in the "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst" saying. Just before I started typing, I checked M/bytes and Super-antispy web page, it doesn't look like they have anything for Linux. Now I try to be safe in my web activity, however, there is still Murphy's Law to contend with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystikhol9 View Post
    Please, don't apologize, evangelize to your hearts content. This is exactly why I posted this. Obviously there is a lot to learn here. I'll be saving this stuff for future reference. Now I've heard about how secure Linux is, however, I believe in the "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst" saying. Just before I started typing, I checked M/bytes and Super-antispy web page, it doesn't look like they have anything for Linux. Now I try to be safe in my web activity, however, there is still Murphy's Law to contend with.
    In truth, I've never found a need for a full time anti-virus or anti-spyware package in Linux. That's not to say Linux specific Virii and Spyware don't exist, but they are much much more uncommon. Here's a good thread on antivirus and anti-spyware utilities.

    Malware and Antivirus Systems for Linux | Linux.org

    I do run Bleachbit on my machine, and at some point I'll probably throw Avast or ClamAV on it.

    Scott

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    I would like to try Linux Mint 17.2, but I don't know which edition :
    - Cinnamon
    - Mate
    - KDE
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    what's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gu3 View Post
    In truth, I've never found a need for a full time anti-virus or anti-spyware package in Linux. That's not to say Linux specific Virii and Spyware don't exist, but they are much much more uncommon. Here's a good thread on antivirus and anti-spyware utilities.

    Malware and Antivirus Systems for Linux | Linux.org

    I do run Bleachbit on my machine, and at some point I'll probably throw Avast or ClamAV on it.

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    Same question as Smiki007, which one? When I get this set up it will be my daily system. That means e-mail, web surfing, some movies and games. Some of the games in my Steam acct. are Linux supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiki007 View Post
    I would like to try Linux Mint 17.2, but I don't know which edition :
    - Cinnamon
    - Mate
    - KDE
    - Xfce
    what's the difference?
    There is a side-by-side of Cinnamon and Mate here -


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    Here comparsion of all 4 editions:

    according to all what I've seen, the best choice is Cinnamon.
    Last edited by Smiki007; 31-08-2015 at 15:21.

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