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    Default OS crapping out? Slow as heck/fine in safemode.

    Well I am not sure how to explain this. Basically everything was working as normal, I decided to defragment and then scandisk, after this was done I then rebooted. Once the computer started to load into windows, It then got a blue screen. Ok fine most likely a minidump I had this happen on regular basis. So now the computer rebooted again and loaded windows fine and everything. Now this is the catch and the odd part, windows is acting snail pace?! I mean its like I am running a 200mhz computer its weird. Takes 20 to 30 mins to load up the startup programs and I cant think of anything that would cause this?

    The funny part is while in safe mode everything is fine and speedy so it cant be hardware could it? I am in safe mode now with network setting and everything is fine. I just wonder what it could be.

    The basics of my cpu is this. 3.0ghz intel pent 4, 2.0 gig duel mem, 8800gts nvid, creative audi zs, 3 hard drives all seta 1. Running vista ultimate svpack 1
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    Are any of your hard drives sounding noisier than usual. If your getting BSOD on a regular babsis then something is very wrong. Have u tried virus and spyware scans. Just some basic ideas. Have u tried a repair with windows disc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    Are any of your hard drives sounding noisier than usual. If your getting BSOD on a regular babsis then something is very wrong. Have u tried virus and spyware scans. Just some basic ideas. Have u tried a repair with windows disc?

    Yeah I ran both and nothing was found and everything was fine. I also checked events and I have/had no critical errors although I do have unusual high amount of regular errors. All this being said my computer for some odd reason decided to work again? Dont ask me how but it must of been the defrager program? I dont know it seemed that once I removed some dat files and got the program to work again that the computer was fine or could of been something else?

    I have a feeling it could be temperature problems? My vid card can get up to 69C and I know this cant be good. 60c is like 100F right?

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    Is that 69c idle or under load? If its under load then its fine.

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    When Idle its about 50 to 58 and while on desktop its at 60. Under load its 69 to 70 but when I rebooted once and came to windows. My desktop and everything had artifacts all over it and its froze. So I rebooted did what I said above then thats when it crapped out. Eventually it started to work again with no lag but it could of just been the fact that it cooled down?

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    Could be a driver issue but youve probably already checked on this. Check the fan isnt faulty on the grfx card causing a sudden temp fluctuation. Also importantly is your system overclocked in any way. If you have a spare grfx card change it and see if it stabalises your system. If you can narrow the problem down to been your grfx card, send it back (if its still under warranty). If you find a solution lets us know the outcome.

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    Just a thought or 2...Where are you ....is it hot just now? When did you last clean the dust out of your computer Have you got enough air flow TO your card (case intake near?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Just a thought or 2...Where are you ....is it hot just now? When did you last clean the dust out of your computer Have you got enough air flow TO your card (case intake near?)
    In a office/type bedroom with wooden wall panes and woodenfloors. We have a wall ac unit of such that cools down the room but the computer is against the wall being raised on a desk. So the unit is "ABOVE" the computers. As for the fan flow its exhaust from the back is blowing against the wall it has room so its not like directly against it. I got two side case fans blowing out (gonna turn them around to see if it helps. and 1 front fan thats blowing in. The Read is in the same direction for air flow.

    The vid card I have is MASSIVE and its slot is right next to the cpu the cpu's heatsink and fan is massive too. It seems weird how the fan works for the card. Its a gts8800 evga, I feel like I need to move things around hoping that works but doubt it.

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    Try taking side of case off and pointing a portable fan directly onto grfx card. Then run a demanding game or 3d application. Also check your HSF on your processor is working ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    Try taking side of case off and pointing a portable fan directly onto grfx card. Then run a demanding game or 3d application. Also check your HSF on your processor is working ok.
    Yeah just did that last night. It worked now the temperatures are great, I have 2 case fans on the side pan one is blowing the other is sucking. After doing this the temps are great. Now if I crash again or get some blue screen it might be software related.

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    Have you thought of an after market cooler for your grfx card? Also what case are you using? Try some cable management if needed it can make a surprising difference. Monitor your temps with and without the extra fans just to see any fluctuations. Obviously having your case open all the time isnt a long term solution because of the dreaded dust. The more cleaning inside you have to do the more risk of hardware failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    Have you thought of an after market cooler for your grfx card? Also what case are you using? Try some cable management if needed it can make a surprising difference. Monitor your temps with and without the extra fans just to see any fluctuations. Obviously having your case open all the time isnt a long term solution because of the dreaded dust. The more cleaning inside you have to do the more risk of hardware failure.
    Yeah I used many twistie ties that came with the mobo as much as possible. My case is a Sidewinder not sure if I can find them on the net. I try to keep the computer clean once a month I use the air in the can and try to remove as much dust as I can. As for the market coolers you mean like name brands or something else then the stock? I checked cooler master they didnt have any for my type of card. You have any suggestions as to what are decent brands that support a 8800 gts? The thing is massive I had to move a hard drive to another slot to put the thing in and my case is huge.

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    Just want to recommend you read this too:

    Guide to fan noise and case thermodynamics

    I do wish that graphics cards were built with airflow like psu's, in one end and out of the other then we could just upgrade the fans.

    I'll say it before Deton does...have you thought of moving to watercooling? I've tried BIG air ....TOO NOISY for 24/7 unless your rig is in a cupboard or some such.
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    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...20VGA%20Cooler

    These are compatible wityh the 8800s. Try looking around a few more websites. Just google cooling for the 8800. I know the cards are big i own one too and it covers 2 of my SATA connections. Only consider the cooling option if your sure your card is overheating, and it will make your system stable.
    Try to think when your system was last stable and if you made any changes to it. maybe a system restore may help though doubtful. Hope your find the problem and sort it out.

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    has the slow down stopped now?

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    If I understand correctly you were OK until a defrag and a scan. I believe something occurred during these processes that caused a data corruption. I recommend backing up files and reformatting. Or you might try a 'Restore' sometime prior to the defrag/scandisk.
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