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    The new SandForce drives offer killer performance, even leaving the Indilinx drives in the dust. Normally such performance boosts come with a very hefty premium, but that's not happening for the most part, but especially with the Patriot Inferno 100GB. We have a drive here that is crazy fast and a pretty good deal when you look at the competition.



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    Good review, Nice drive I'm a little surprised on both IO Meter results good job by Patriot. If it was cheaper it would be hard to beat

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    Nice job Jake, those IO Meter results were pretty impressive.

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    jake i can tell you the extended versions of the drive ie 120 vs. 100 are twice as quick to degrade. all sandforce drives are subject to write degradation that trim will not recover in fact if you want to test this it may make for a good article. here is a little known fact trim on a sandforce drive returns no write performance. what you say? try this run 3 or 4 passes of cdm at 9/4000 the write speed will drop at least 40%. now you would expect trim to recover the write speed to at least 90% right? every other controller returns the write speed to like 99%. but not the sandforce controller. trim will return no performance. you will stay at 60% write performance. thats why a 100gb drive takes longer to degrade than a 120 cause with the larger op it can maintain its self better. here read through this http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...else-Sandforce btw nice review

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    Now I am disappointed with that news Jake.

    So, out of the ones you have tested which 100 -120GB SSD would you recommend?

    I was thinking the SandForce controlled drives was the only way to go until I read what obamaliar had to say about Trim not helping.

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    What program do you use to run trim, Kingston ssdNow V series (mine 30gb) isn't recognized by Intel's ssd toolbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIPPER View Post
    Now I am disappointed with that news Jake.

    So, out of the ones you have tested which 100 -120GB SSD would you recommend?

    I was thinking the SandForce controlled drives was the only way to go until I read what obamaliar had to say about Trim not helping.
    they are still the way to go cause the 4k performance is so good no matter what. imo vertex 2 100gb is prefered. i have an le myself its good but i cant wait until the new intels come out or the toshibas with DDR nand come out cause of the low performance of the sandforce drives with compressed data.

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    here http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...r-entire-drive you can get a force trim for sandforce drives i dont know if it will work for kingston though

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    Thanks it ran and cleared 20% of the drive, my questions is why would trim not run regularly in W7? How do you know if it is or isn't running?

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    $295 in this economy. I say it flops due to the price point. Nice SDD though. Some companies don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    What program do you use to run trim, Kingston ssdNow V series (mine 30gb) isn't recognized by Intel's ssd toolbox.
    As far as I know, the 1st generation Kingston SSDNow was offered in 40GB (JMicron controller) or 64/128GB sizes (Intel controller). Since you have a 30Gb drive, it is likely a second gen. SSDNOW V, which was released in Feb. 2010. If it's the SNV125-S2/30GB (stand-alone drive) or SNV125-S2BD/30GB (desktop bundle) it has native TRIM support that Windows runs automatically, no external tool needed. If neither of those model numbers match, please give me the exact model number and I can see if there's any updated firmware that gives TRIM support via a toolbox.

    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    Thanks it ran and cleared 20% of the drive, my questions is why would trim not run regularly in W7? How do you know if it is or isn't running?
    How to check if TRIM is enabled? From this Windows 7 forum:

    1) Click on Start. In the "search programs and files" box, type cmd. At the top, right-click the cmd.exe
    that shows up and left click "Run as administrator".
    2) In the command window, type the following:

    fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

    3) If the result is '0' TRIM is enabled.
    TRIM runs so fast you won't even notice it.. unlike garbage collection in Windows Vista and earlier - which needs hours of idle time to work. A brief intro to TRIM:

    One of these features will be the implementation of the TRIM command. This command enables the OS to inform a storage device (SSD in this case) of sector ranges that are no longer needed for storage. A TRIM-aware SSD will use these commands to perform a type of garbage collection within its bank of flash memory. What exactly takes place will vary with each manufacturers implementation, but the overall effect will be the elimination of fragmentation-over-time that is seen with many SSD's currently on the market.
    More detailed info. on TRIM from Microsoft:

    Quote Originally Posted by Microsoft blogs
    In Windows 7, if an SSD reports it supports the Trim attribute of the ATA protocolís Data Set Management command, the NTFS file system will request the ATA driver to issue the new operation to the device when files are deleted and it is safe to erase the SSD pages backing the files. With this information, an SSD can plan to erase the relevant blocks opportunistically (and lazily) in the hope that subsequent writes will not require a blocking erase operation since erased pages are available for reuse.

    As an added benefit, the Trim operation can help SSDs reduce wear by eliminating the need for many merge operations to occur. As an example, consider a single 128 KB SSD block that contained a 128 KB file. If the file is deleted and a Trim operation is requested, then the SSD can avoid having to mix bytes from the SSD block with any other bytes that are subsequently written to that block. This reduces wear.


    Windows 7 requests the Trim operation for more than just file delete operations. The Trim operation is fully integrated with partition- and volume-level commands like Format and Delete, with file system commands relating to truncate and compression, and with the System Restore (aka Volume Snapshot) feature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    Thanks it ran and cleared 20% of the drive, my questions is why would trim not run regularly in W7? How do you know if it is or isn't running?
    it will run regularly if the drives firmware supports it you should see if you have the latest firmware for your drive

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    I just did cmd.exe fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify it returned 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    That is the second gen. Kingston SSDNow V and it supports TRIM natively. You don't need to do anything. If you want to maximize performance, run the optimizations recommended right here on PureOC, but for the sake of TRIM - no need to manually run it.

    Quote Originally Posted by smduff View Post
    I just did cmd.exe fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify it returned 0
    So, you're fine as far as TRIM is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eido.cohen View Post
    That is the second gen. Kingston SSDNow V and it supports TRIM natively. You don't need to do anything. If you want to maximize performance, run the optimizations recommended right here on PureOC, but for the sake of TRIM - no need to manually run it.



    So, you're fine as far as TRIM is concerned.
    yep but remember the trim command is only sent when something is permanently deleted

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