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    Default Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    We have the Sapphire 990FX Pure Black for AMD’s Bulldozer FX processors. We're very interested in what this board can do, so we've decided to pop in a flagship Bulldozer chip with some sub-zero cooling and see what we can accomplish. 5GHz? Pfft, that's easy. 6+GHz? Ok, now you're talking.

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    Click http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1421.html for the full review.

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Hmmm, they have a somewhat different interptretation of what a motherboard with "Pure Black" in the name would look like than I do...

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Good review Jim, nice work on the OC results, this is a decent board with a great price!
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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Nice review, Jim.

    I own this motherboard and took it for a test spin, but wound up going back to my Crosshair V. It's really a mixed bag with some unexpected features and performance, and some basic fundamentals just entirely overlooked. It overclocked nicely, I had no trouble getting to 4.75GHz with the FX-8150 @ 1.52v, and would have gone higher had I been willing to throw more voltage at the chip (but I'm not). Plus, I was getting funky voltage readings with the software (checked perfectly with a meter, though) so I didn't want to take any chances.

    On the plus side, the 8150 ran much cooler in this board than in the Crosshair V or the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5. Why, I have no idea....

    On the downside, the VDroop in my board was bad....really bad. Raising the PWM helped a little, but the biggest affect it had was turning the NB into a good imitation of the heat element for a Ronco Showtime Rotisserie. NB temps would fly up into the mid 70s. And, of course, the TRIXX MB software was pretty useless with no multiplier control and the important voltage setting being done in a relative, rather than absolute, interface.

    IMHO - It's a cool board that needs a BIOS update to straighten a few things out (assuming that will do it, as it did with the UD5's VDroop issues). But, $210 for a 990FX with no SLI and some unfinished issues? When you can get a 990FXA-UD5 for $179 or Crosshair V for $219?

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    Nice review, Jim.

    I own this motherboard and took it for a test spin, but wound up going back to my Crosshair V. It's really a mixed bag with some unexpected features and performance, and some basic fundamentals just entirely overlooked. It overclocked nicely, I had no trouble getting to 4.75GHz with the FX-8150 @ 1.52v, and would have gone higher had I been willing to throw more voltage at the chip (but I'm not). Plus, I was getting funky voltage readings with the software (checked perfectly with a meter, though) so I didn't want to take any chances.

    On the plus side, the 8150 ran much cooler in this board than in the Crosshair V or the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5. Why, I have no idea....

    On the downside, the VDroop in my board was bad....really bad. Raising the PWM helped a little, but the biggest affect it had was turning the NB into a good imitation of the heat element for a Ronco Showtime Rotisserie. NB temps would fly up into the mid 70s. And, of course, the TRIXX MB software was pretty useless with no multiplier control and the important voltage setting being done in a relative, rather than absolute, interface.

    IMHO - It's a cool board that needs a BIOS update to straighten a few things out (assuming that will do it, as it did with the UD5's VDroop issues). But, $210 for a 990FX with no SLI and some unfinished issues? When you can get a 990FXA-UD5 for $179 or Crosshair V for $219?
    Ciarlanto 2 things. The 990FX chipset supports both Crossfire and SLI so yes this board supports SLI. Yes the Crossfire V overclocked a bit better, we got 4.8GHz stable with the Crossfire V.

    NB temps at 70 is normal for any 890 or 990 chipset board, You can take those temps easily to 90-100 celsius.

    In my opinion the Sapphire is better than the Gigabyte UD5 and I personally liked it better than the Crosshair V.

    Your points have bo backbone with the exception of the Crosshair V overclocking a tad better.

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Caleal View Post
    Hmmm, they have a somewhat different interptretation of what a motherboard with "Pure Black" in the name would look like than I do...
    Not in disagreement there. Black and Blue maybe better? LOL. I call it the Blue Oyster Cult!

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    Ciarlanto 2 things. The 990FX chipset supports both Crossfire and SLI so yes this board supports SLI. Yes the Crossfire V overclocked a bit better, we got 4.8GHz stable with the Crossfire V.

    NB temps at 70 is normal for any 890 or 990 chipset board, You can take those temps easily to 90-100 celsius.

    In my opinion the Sapphire is better than the Gigabyte UD5 and I personally liked it better than the Crosshair V.

    Your points have bo backbone with the exception of the Crosshair V overclocking a tad better.
    The board does not support SLI. Sapphire made this fact widely known. The chipset does, Sapphire disabled it in the board due to licensing issues. So, there is one of the two things.....

    Yes, NB temps can climb up there. But, raising PWM from 160 to 250 should not cause a 15~18 degree spike, in my opinion. Something doesn't sit right there. My Gigabyte, ASUS and AsRock boards don't have this issue. So, there is two of two issues.

    You are more than welcome to like the board better than the UD5 or Crosshair V, I simply don't. Then again, you are welcome to run SLI in the Sapphire.....

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    He's right Jim, only Crossfire. here's a page from their site on the 990FX:

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Death View Post
    He's right Jim, only Crossfire. here's a page from their site on the 990FX:

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    Thanks for pointing that out, Stan.

    Jim, I didn't knock your review or findings. Just pointed out some hiccups I found in the board since I have one, most of which you pointed out in your review (TRIXX needing multiplier control, relative voltage controls being a PITA) and relating the issue I had with VDroop in my particular board. No need to get so defensive.

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    The review was good. I enjoyed reading it and your OC results are pretty impressive too.
    Thanks Jim.

    That's a shame about the SLI feature. The only pair of high quality cards that I have are NVIDIA based GTX-570's.
    I like the looks of this board and may just try one of them out soon.
    I guess I'll have to get a few Radeon Cards as well. (or one monster Radeon)

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    The review was good. I enjoyed reading it and your OC results are pretty impressive too.
    Thanks Jim.

    That's a shame about the SLI feature. The only pair of high quality cards that I have are NVIDIA based GTX-570's.
    I like the looks of this board and may just try one of them out soon.
    I guess I'll have to get a few Radeon Cards as well. (or one monster Radeon)
    The 990FX chipset supports SLI. I have no idea why anyone says it doesn't.

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    Thanks for pointing that out, Stan.

    Jim, I didn't knock your review or findings. Just pointed out some hiccups I found in the board since I have one, most of which you pointed out in your review (TRIXX needing multiplier control, relative voltage controls being a PITA) and relating the issue I had with VDroop in my particular board. No need to get so defensive.
    Its just the board is great. I had no problems and the Vdroop could be the fault of your PSU. The Gigybyte 990FXA UD5 had some guys I worked with complain about Vdroop and no LLC. I suffered literally no Vdroop on that board with no LLC and the Sapphire board was in lines of any other 990FX or 890FX board. All boards have Vdroop of some nature.

    The thing is I tested all 990FX boards and if your gonna make Trixx the target of not buying the board, IMO thats not smart(the bios was as simple as pie to overclock). I was pretty impressed with Sapphire on this one and I haven't always been this stoked about their products(Not that they were bad by no means) in a long time. The board performed flawlessly.

    This is a must buy for $210 IMO. I liked the Gigabyte 990FXA UD5, I was OK with the Crosshair V but so far this was my favorite board especially with 6 PCie, slots, On/off/reset/ clear cmos, The front panel USB 3.0. Sapphire covered everything on this one.

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Drdeath View Post
    The 990FX chipset supports SLI. I have no idea why anyone says it doesn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciarlatano View Post
    The board does not support SLI. Sapphire made this fact widely known. The chipset does, Sapphire disabled it in the board due to licensing issues.
    990 does, but the board doesn't.

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

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    990 does, but the board doesn't.
    The box does not say either crossfire or SLI. I need to get this info to Jake to revise the review. Sorry fellas, Sapphire did not list either on the box. That is really a brainfart by them and makes the reviewer look like a donkey!

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    That is really a brainfart by them and makes the reviewer look like a donkey!
    I said that I liked the reveiw Eeyore,..........Post a head shot and we'll pin a tail on you,.........

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    Default Re: Sapphire 990FX Pure Black

    Quote Originally Posted by realneil View Post
    I said that I liked the reveiw Eeyore,..........Post a head shot and we'll pin a tail on you,.........
    Heehaw, heehaw!

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