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![]() Core i7 owners please come join us and share your overclocking expertise, tips, secret and discussion on everything relate to Asus X58 boards or any others and Core i7 processors. Last edited by Deton; 07-05-2009 at 10:34. |
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![]() Intel introduced the LGA1366 new platform for the Core i7 processor architecture. This new chip deliver significantly better performance per clock cycle compared to the previous LGA775 system, also it has more power-efficient than its predecessors. No doubt the Core i7 (Nahalem) is a great chip and also it has much more complex circuitry design than the Penryn family, it can handles everything you throw at it with ease. However, overclocking Nahalem is a little bit different compare to previous generation Core 2 processors. Consequently, the same overclocking principles apply to these new systems as well. The Penryn processors which feature a Front Side Bus (FS and an external Memory Control Hub (MCH – Northbridge); they are completely opposite to the Nahalem, it has onboard (integrated) MCH, a QPI (Quick Path Interconnect) bus, an Uncore clock and a Bclock (base bus frequency) constitutes each of the other component clock speeds. Before I’m tutoring you through the overclocking process I would like to disclaim to the fact that overclocking a CPU is exceeding manufacturer recommendations clock speed and voltage, there are some risks involved. Increasing CPU clock speed and excessively voltage can cause system instability or can permanent damage. Therefore, I'm not responsible for any damages or lost of your hardware if you're using my guide. This guide is not attending for beginners; you must familiar with overclocking fundamental process. However, I'm try to make it simple as I can and the beginer can follow it as well. Last edited by Deton; 27-03-2009 at 13:39. |
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When overclocking LGA775 systems is relatively increasing the processor bus frequency, as the processor bus frequency increases
so as the processor and memory frequencies are proportionally increases as well. In this situation, overclocking is completely different with Core i7 processors. These processors not only have 8MB shared L3 cache and integrated memory controller but they use a totally new series interface to connect to the chipset and the base bus frequency (Bclock) play a major role for this new system. Core i7 also has 4 new sets of multiplier; you can find them as following;
Bclock This is the base bus frequency; it is similar to the FSB. This base bus frequency has its influence to the Uncore, memory clock, QPI clock and CPU clock components; when you increasing it will overclock everything at once. The Bclock stock frequency is 133Mhz. Uncore The Uncore clock is the speeds of the L3 cache and the on-die MCH. Since both memory and Uncore clock share the same reference clock (Bclock) therefore the Uncore clock must always be equal or twice greater than the memory clock. Example: The Uncore clock speed equal Bclock multiply the Uncore multiplier. Bclock = 133Mhz Memory multiplier = 12 Uncore = 133Mhz x 2(12) Uncore multiplier = 3192Mhz Memory clock The memory clock refers to RAM speeds, the memory clock speed is found as follow; Memory clock speed = memory multiplier x Bclock Example: Bclock = 133Mhz Memory multiplier = 12 Memory clock = 133Mhz x 12 = 2666Mhz QPI clock QuickPath Interconnect clock speed determines the bandwidth available to all the components connected to it, such as RAM, GPUs, CPU, etc. QPI bus should be kept close to stock speeds, and its multiplier would have to be lowered in the case that the Bclock is raised. The lowest QPI multiplier available is 18x. QPI clock speed = Bclock x QPI multiplier Example: Bclock = 133Mhz QPI multiplier = 18 QPI clock speed = 133Mhz x 18 = 2394Mhz CPU clock The CPU clock is the processor clock frequency which the main unit that we want to enhance its speed. The equation can be found as following; CPU clock speed = Bclock x CPU multiplier Example: Bclock = 133Mhz CPU multiplier = 20 (we will be using i7 920 has a locked multiplier at 20) CPU clock speed = 133mhz x 20 = 2660Mh Last edited by Deton; 27-03-2009 at 14:32. |
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![]() Turbo Mode Intel designed Core i7 to actually overclock the CPU by itself for you. It’s a feature which can be toggled on/off in the BIOS or through software so that the extra horsepower can be supplied to active cores. The active cores are then adjusted or overclocked by pump up the multiplier one notch for additional performance so that they perform faster. However, the Turbo mode only active if your processor’s thermal stay within its specification, which is mean if you have poor cooler than it won’t switch over Turbo mode. Example: if you have i7 920 with locked multiplier at 20x, the board will pump it to 21x when it’s needed. Consequently, it is not extremely helpful when it comes to high-end overclocking. If you’re a dedicated overclocker, I would recommend disabling this feature to force consistent clock speeds. Hyper-Threading Welcome back HT. HyperThreading was introduced back then the Pentium 4 chip, it is a virtual multiple threading; when this feature enable, it’s allow each core to have two simultaneous threads for each core to processing. A quad-core processor with Hyper-Threading will show eight cores in the operating system but it doesn’t have better performance than a true Octa-core system, but it’s definitely have better performance advantage in heavily multi-thread applications when it enables compared to the same system with Hyper-Threading disabled. However, Hyper-Threading could hindered the performance if the applications are not multi-thread but in general with the Hyper-Thread smooth out multitasking and in applications that were optimized for multi-threading, you would see a modest performance advantage. The good thing is you can toggle this option on/off in the bios to suite your computing needs. ![]() Voltages It’s a known fact that overclocking can decrease the life of the CPU especially when it overvoltage. Normally when overclocking you do need to increase the CPU, MCH and RAM voltages to achieve higher overclocking and utilize its stability. When you increase these voltages are often they produce extra heat to the components. So increase the value in small increments at a time with precaution, and never go over each components max voltage specification or you can cause permanent damage each component if it’s raised too high. vCore = the voltage for the CPU cores vTT = the voltage value for Uncore & MCH vdimm = RAM module voltage Temperature Increasing CPU's voltage or its clock speed will generate extra heat, especially when you have Turbo Mode or Hyper-Threading enables. Therefore, you should make sure you have an adequate cooler before you overclocking your processor. Core i7 have stock of 130W TDP and it will jumps up to approximately 147w and can produce heat up to 250-290w when it overclocked. How to determine if you have an adequate cooler before you proceed the overclocking? Using default stock settings open any thermal monitor program of your choice to check the CPU temperature. If the delta temperature (the different temperature) is within 5°C – 7°C with the ambient temp then your cooler is adequate at idle loading. Example: if you have ambient temp at 25°C and the CPU temp is 30°C then you are safe to use the cooler, and if it is more than 10°C then you should investing in a better cooler before you start overclocking your processor. Another way to determine if your HFS is good enough to cool overclocked i7; Leave everything at stock speed setting, run Prime95 at all threads with HT/Turbo enables. Now monitoring the temperature for few minutes; if your load temps reached beyond 70°C at this point then don’t even thinking of overclocking your CPU until you upgrade the HFS. I would recommend, to keep the cores temperature at around 70c - 75c under load, this will give you about 5c of headroom for the hot summer days. Last edited by Deton; 27-03-2009 at 14:32. |
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If you have a hard time to figure out all the above equations manually then you can download this Nahalem Overclocking Calculator. This is handy and dandy tool to save you all the guess work.
http://icrontic.com/downloads/nehale...ing-calculator ![]() Last edited by Deton; 27-03-2009 at 14:32. |
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The main three pieces of the hardware I will be using for this guide are the Asus P6T Deluxe, Core i7 920 and Corsair XMS3 TR3X6G1600C8D Dominator.
If you have the 965 processor then you are very lucky person, this processor will make your overclock as a brezze. You can keep Bclk low and just upwards the multiplier and it will flies. The overclocking principles still apply the same as you have 920, 940 or 965 version. In BIOS Ai Tweaker menu set following options as below; ![]() AI Overclock Tuner - Manual You need to set this option at Manual or D.O.C.P or X.M.P before you start to customize the other features. Since the Dominator is X.M.P ready so I chose this option over the Manual, if your memory is not X.M.P ready then you have to use Manual option and manually set the memory timings. Although if you're lucky enough to have XMP ready memory you might want to try that - 1,600MHz sets the QPI link to 200MHz - just what we needed for 4GHz. Intel Turbo Mode - Disable I disabled it so as it would not interfere with the overclock. However you can leave on later on if you want use new Intel low power states. Normally this affects how the CPU overclocks and in extreme cases expect it will, because the on/off effect to the CPU frequency and voltages as the C-state changes. BCLK Frequency – 200Mhz BCLK = Base clock. This affects the QPI and uncore (L3 cache, northbridge) frequency too. We’ll be shooting for 4Ghz, so we will set the Bclock at 200Mhz. CPU Voltage – 1.35v (max 1.55v) At this value is plenty of juice to fed the i7 920, depending on your own CPU’s need, it might be happy with less voltage. According to Intel white sheet, the maximum recommend voltage is 1.3675v. However, you still can go up to 1.4v-1.47v and still safe, of course it’s depending on what type of cooler you are using. DRAM Frequency - 1,600MHz Since I’m using Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz, therefore I will running it at stock speed. I’m not going to overclock the RAM in this guide. You’ll have more chances to get the system rock solid stable if you run the memory slower speeds if you can. However, you can overclock it later on when you have a stable overclocked. CPU PLL Voltage – 1.96v (max 1.89v) Honestly, I’ve to play with this voltage more, Intel recommended is 1.89v max but I’m using 1.96v for now. QPI/DRAM Voltage - 1.35v Don’t confuse this voltage with the actual memory voltage. Increasing this is also necessary as it helps overclock the base frequency as the uncore area overclocks increase in relation to the CPU core overclocks. This voltage is tied to actual DRAM voltage - the two are directly connected on the motherboard. You'll need to increase this to keep the CPU safe. You should keep this voltage and Vram voltage the same or no more/less than 0.5v. Last edited by Deton; 04-07-2009 at 00:22. |
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![]() DRAM Voltage - 1.65V Max There’s a warning that you should keep this voltage max at 1.65v, anything above this have the potential to damage the CPU. However, if you can keep the CPU Uncore voltage within 0.5v difference of the DRAM voltage and there’s no problem. ![]() A little CPU Differential Amplitude will help with overclocking and turn off some unused features. ![]() And keep Hardware Prefetcher and Hyper Threading on will improve performance. ![]() With ACPI 2 enable, it's help to keep the clocks on Core i7 If you are familiar with Intel systems, the best thing to do is treat QPI frequency like you would with Front Side Bus and cranking up the QPI also levies another advantage - increased memory frequencies. Because the Core i7 920 uses the basic 4.8GT/s QPI frequency there is no option available here to adjust it, so you don't have to worry about it, however being able to see what its "final frequency" post-overclock would be incredibly useful. I found that enabling APCI2 (High Performance Event Timer), is critical for keeping the clocks on Core i7 CPUs accurate. Without it turned on, the multiplier jumps around crazily, but with it on, the multiplier reading is solid and the clock frequency only jitters very slightly according to fractional variations in the base clock. Stability Stress Test Now it’s time to check your overclocking for stability; the following are recommended software to use to test your overclocked i7. Prime95 OCCT Thermal monitoring software; CoreTemp RealTemp Everest HWMonitor Last edited by Deton; 27-03-2009 at 14:25. |
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I wouldn’t recommend you to try this if you are on air cooler, at least you’re on water cooling or your processor will cry for help or the Turbo won’t active if your air cooler under its cooling power.
![]() Now enable Turbo Mode and pump the CPU & QPI/DRAM Core up to 1.4125v, don’t forget to run Prime95 again to check the stability. Notice: your result might be different due to each chip (processor) behave differently; you might need more voltage or less. With the Bclk at 200 and with the Turbo kick in then processor will run at 4.2Ghz with HyperThread (8 cores), that’s one fast and smooth performance rig. ![]() And don't forget to do stability test for this setting as well. Last edited by Deton; 07-05-2009 at 10:36. |
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The following Bios settins are just sample guidelines. The result may varies for each hardware configuration. Rampage II Extreme
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*** Thank you to all members for submitted the temperature reading.*** Load temps were taking during 5 minutes IntelBurn Test and these figures might not 100% accurate. They are just reference guideline to give you the idea how hot the OCed i7 will be, so make sure you have a good cooler before you consider overclock it. Last edited by Deton; 02-11-2009 at 13:17. |
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Deton, I think you forgot to mention for 920s and 940s , people with 965 Extremes will not be able to use this will they ?
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920/940 are the same chip, except 965 have upwards multiplier and faster QIP. I'm sure 965 owners or any other X58 board owners can use this guide are guide-line as well. Most 965 are run at slow Bclk and higher multiplier because they can easily achieve higher overclocking. So the 4Ghz club is slightly different from the Max Clubs, no dedicated board here. I'm expecting all PureOC Core i7 owners to jump on board here. Wanna to draw more member and traffic to PureOC? Then post, make this thread bigger and don't forget to add on some tags to this thread. Last edited by Deton; 27-03-2009 at 14:53. |
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Well done Deton, you did it again!
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Thanks Deton. And thanks to your guide, I am looking to upgrade to the i7 as well now.
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