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    Default Scared of voltmods?...READ THIS

    I saw this during developement over at XS. seems to have gone into production.

    I still think you need to be brave but hell we need to take risks sometimes....don't we?

    anyway for your perusal.......

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WICKEDX-SnapOn...3286.m14.l1318
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    Let me ask you this, Will you buy it from someone called himself Voodoo (this name already exsit) and have a girl face not very attractive (IMO) represent as you business venture?



    Here is my though;
    1. I don't think that image can be a spoke person or model for a business.
    2. I any body can draw up graphs for the comparison figures easily.
    3. No way Nvidia allow him to use their logo, images to slapped his logo on it without the approval
    4. Lifetime warranty? really ...who is he, company background? or any financial support to back up his warranty?
    As we all know, if you doing any voltage mod to the hardware. You are on your own risk. It will voids the card warranty if you fired it.

    Will you take that risk to void $500 - $700 card for a $65.00 product warranty?

    Wicked alright and Be Scared, you damn right I am scare.

    However, I didn't say this mod won't work but I think he is better just to be the manufactor and have a reputable distributers to sell his product. And he is better not using Nvidia logo or image to advertising his product or Nvidia's lawyer will knock on his door.

    This is my rant!

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    this guy has just thought of selling volt mods direct to people so they don't have to do it themselves. I also think if you feel the need to buy the mod instead of being able to do it yourself, you probably shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

    To make what he's selling is under $10

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    Hey Deton....were you a lawyer in another life?

    Don't get me wrong I'm not recommending this, far from it. Think of this more as a news item about maybe a new direction in overclocking.

    In a few years we will either have forgotten all about it or there will be more mainstream products of this ilk. My bet is on the former.

    Yes J. it is cheaper to learn to solder, read a voltmeter and I'm sure a lot more satisfying
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpydaddy View Post
    Hey Deton....were you a lawyer in another life?
    I wish I was, unfortunately I am not. I'm in a printing business so we have to flow the copyright law if you don't then you are easly get a hefty fine. Also I friend of mine in silk screen T-shirt printing, he's used to use other people logo alter it, make it look a little different...etc. He got threaten letters from lawyers to suing him if he doesn't pull the product off and stop using their logo or image.

    I think $65 is way to much for this little mod and I know it is not going to break but I can justify if the card getting fired.

    edit: I think it's a good mod but over price.

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    me personaly i know how to do all of that modding, and more. but i agree with deton voiding a warranty on a 300-500 dollar product is stupid especialy if you are running into heat issues already i meen you volt mod then you need to go liquid on the cards then it just gets crazy expensive and very delicate.

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    Oh, Smith; now you've mentioned it, Voodoo said with his mod (voltage) you will be ok to use stock HFS....:rolleyes:

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    ok.. so realisticaly how much of a performance increase are we looking at here? I dont understand why someone wouldnt just old school OC with rivatuner or ati tool or whatever your favorite one is

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    @Intex, you have a point there. I already Oced my 8800GTS to 660mhz (GPU) from 500mhz by using nforceware without any voltage mod.

    Comparision with Voodoo's mod;
    Voodoo
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    Mod: voltage
    GPU stock: 675Mhz to 852Mhz = 177Mhz overclocked
    Cost: $65

    Deton
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    Mod: Nforceware
    GPU stock: 500Mhz to 660Mhz = 160Mhz overclocked
    Cost: FREE with 5 minutes work

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    for 177mhzthats more than 30% overclocking. now with an intel C2D thats nothing special but for a graphics card im running a 10% oc and its requiring a turned up fan to avoid artifacts... that voodoo guy (girl?) is full of ****.

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    EDIT : Was incorrect
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    Sorry for the misinformation , As far as im concerned ebay is no different than CL. And yes HUGE diff betweet 640 and 512.

    All in all, the risks that it takes IMO are not anywhere near worth the gain. I also dont like the idea of pushing temperatures even further, especially with air.
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    Well, we are know there are 3 ways to overclock the grfx card;



    so choose your poison.
    • by software (Ntune or Rivatuner, CCT)
    • Bios mod (you can increase voltage thru here as well)
    • hardmod (voltage)
    When you increased voltage heat will increase as well. You'll be the judge to determine how well the cooler perform before you do voltage mod.

    As I mentioned, Voodoo name is not original. It been used before so very easly mistake with someone else.

    Voodoo you are deserve 100% credit for your invention, very clever but no way it cost you over $10-$15 on the material to produce that tool.
    By the way, someone just paid it for $90.....so we (at least I) think it very overprice. I'm sure this is not the first time you heard this complain.

    Ok, let me do some math here;
    someone just paid $90 for this mod + $400 (assuming) grfx + $50 (cooler aftermarket, if I was the guy) = $540 (shipping not included)

    Anyway, I think it's just overprice.

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    well I could see people that know nothing about how to volt mod there gpu wanting to get it already done for them. and the people that would get this would be the ones with money and too lazy to actually do it themselves.

    So its good for the noobs with money like my neighbor but not the ones that actually know how to do this themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaganader View Post
    well I could see people that know nothing about how to volt mod there gpu wanting to get it already done for them. and the people that would get this would be the ones with money and too lazy to actually do it themselves.

    So its good for the noobs with money like my neighbor but not the ones that actually know how to do this themselves.
    i agree, the problem here is that your market is not us voodoo, you are going to get a different type of user buying this. most here would do it themselves. That's where the criticism comes from. The product looks fine, no ones aguing it doesn't do the job, it's just over priced for experienced users, it's clear to me your market isn't us.

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    Ok, so I seem to have stirred up some feelings here. for what it is worth my views are as follows:

    Firstly even when I first saw this I thought....what a bloody good Idea

    My reasoning being that I just know that heavy handed inexperienced enthusiasts will be trying to push their expensive equipment by voltmodding and likely destroying perfectly good cards with their soldering skills or lack thereof.

    This idea gives those people a chance to get their cards overclocked higher if not superclocked.

    The use of this product likely leaves no sign of purchaser's "misuse" of equipment and here I'm thinking of various RMA scenarios.

    I've seen the interest by experienced overclockers in this probably because of the above

    I'm guessing that this fixed increased voltage model is the marketable way because the ability to fry a card with a variable voltage model must surely preclude any guarantee even with well written manuals

    At this time I would NOT buy this product unless I were using say something like 8800gt (low cost) and this product did not add such a significant premium.

    With the exception of perhaps pencil modding, I would not expect the majority of the members here to even consider voltmodding as mainstream or viable with regard to daily use and there is the point. We are a community of overclockers aiming to do the best we can whilst remaining rock solid stable in all weathers. no overclock is risk free but...

    If nVidia could introduce voltage control as a bios type option or even manual adjustment and expect to retain the element of safety margin built into their cards I think they would have done so by now and charged a premium in the process.

    If this product was the right price and If I could afford to risk my gtx dying would I try this?

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